Oddbean new post about login | logout Don't sats already represent PoW?
not unless you are absolutely sure that the sender and recipient aren't colluding or aren't the same entity
There can’t be a recipient; that’s the problem
well, you can but it's not trustless obv. Like, you can pay a NIP05 provider, and that is as good as how much you trust that provider
exactly my point is that if you buy POW to mine a disposable key clients could still show what otherwise would be filtered out by a WOT, without any client requiring to have any hardcoded "I trust this provider/relay" also, checking a NIP-05 is much more expensive (bandwidth) than a POW check
Exactly
Who do you pay them to?
Relay admins
Why? How does that help? That means that as a user I have to know+trust what spam filtering policies different relays have so that I know whether to read from these ephemeral/disposable keys.
Yup, that's what I mean. When you see relays as specialized Communities this totally works and mimics how people have been selecting for content that's worth reading since forever. They tend to outsource curation 90% of the time to newspapers, music labels, conferences, .... Once you know and trust the reputation of these "publication houses" to curate for stuff that's high signal to you, you don't have to know any private info about who wrote the article, who made the album or who's on the main stage. If there's a new publication in the Wikileaks community for example, who cares then about how much proof of work it took to spin up the profile that signed the event? As long as the profile paid for publication, followed the guidelines, wasn't deleted by the admins and is getting interaction (from members) I'm gonna read that stuff.
When you want something from the universe you pay POW. When you want something from a pubkey you pay sats.
Great line sir 👌 Only confirms my point though. PoW doesn't mean high signal. Someone paying for s publication in s community I'm part is going to be a lot more with reading to me than some random communist who decided to waste power on something, again. "Hey guys, I spent a lot of work on this post." VS "Here's a post in a community you're a member of, that is following the communities guidelines, wasn't deleted by the admin, that had a market price for publication and that was simultaneously published I several other high signal communities."