It baffles me when I see "content creators", who obviously listen to NA, adopt the V4V model, promote it, THEN direct viewers to their Patreon etc... It's so stupid. You can't be V4V and also have "premium content". It's quite annoying. 

Ad reads make my blood boil. 

 @142b9e07 The ones I listen to have the same content, but can support through Patreon if you choose