Oddbean new post about login | logout I don't expect you to be a coder, but how can you make such comments when you don't even look at what's going on?
KYC is gross. Period. That's it. End of discussion. I don't need to know anything about the code or the work you have done if it's all leading to funneling more people into KYC channels reducing their liberty. Nothing else needs to be known! Disgusting. 😡
my point is there is no KYC, there is open source software under an open license that you can use and run and do whatever you want with it. don't trust; verify. but you don't want to look but rather spread some lies there. or show me what you're talking about.
Are you going to have to KYC people for paid services? Yes. My point still stands. I don't have time or inclination to GAF past that. Open source doesn't mean squat if you are part of an oppressive system. So, how am I lying? Is ANYTHING I said untrue? Are you, as a company, going to start having to comply with KYC laws? If the answer is yes, at any point in the future... YOU ARE WRONG. And I won't have anything to do with anything alby ever again. Besides, I'm literally one idiot on the internet. You really should just be ignoring me, but, I seem to have struck a nerve and here we are. You are arguing with an idiot. That looks great for you, doesn't it? 🙄
yes, you're wrong and you seem to not want to know and understand what we're doing or offering. but it seems a decent conversation is not possible here. that's fine if you think you know better.
Nope. I don't. I still don't see how I'm wrong. It doesn't matter since I'll not be using anything alby related as soon as I can figure out how to delete the account I do have.
we provide and build software for which we provide services. Our goal is to put the user in control and can run everything. And we charge for value added services. it's simple actually. If you don't value the work, then don't use it. But spreading FUD and lies on something that you seem to not know and understand is disappointing here on nostr.
if it means anything, i've seen this guy and he has a lot of followers but not a lot of sense popularity especially in the context of stupid engagement based trending algorithms like primal uses leads to amplification of teh most outrageous and stupid so, my advice is, ignore him for now, and maybe later you remove his ignore and he's got bored with fudding your work
Tons of good and sovereign tools with a “pay for more” model for sustainability. I’ll wait to see how it shakes out. Sounds like I’ll be able to self host an Alby Hub someday, and as long as no KYC is required for base usage, I’m good.
yeah, i'm down to run one of these things too, not confident about phoenix/acinq, breeze/lsp, or mutiny or... i even forget what is the other thing? zeyus? 🤣 none of them are good enough for me to shift from custodial i literally don't have the time to waste on beta testing the work of betas, i'm gonna hold until i see more evidence about this alby hub but i like the sound of it already, because it hasn't been hyped and the devs have been slaving away humbly for at least 6 months on this lightning is still very immature, and i'm a dev on nostr, so i can assure you, that if i don't know the protocol inside out it's still in alpha
you can for example get a <$50 device and put it in your closet it will work perfectly fine.
That’s pretty cool. I keep a few mini pc’s, a couple of raspberry pi’s, and have a couple of dedicated servers with Hetzner, so between it all, I’m going to find a place to try it when y’all say it’s ready. I’ve been with Alby since joining nostr - so I figure ya’ll have earned a bit of faith.
Pfft. You must not get around much. There's plenty of BS on nostr, it's just higher level BS than other corners of the internet. Cool. That's a good goal. I hope you can stick with that in the long run. I hope I'm wrong, but, I'll likely never know.
Revisiting this: As it stands, there is no KYC required to use alby using your free tier or your paid service. Correct? Please explain how you can stay out of thr crosshairs of big bag brother when you are going to accept payment for services via lightning. I'm assuming that alby is now a corporation of some sort, and thusly required to file tax info. How will you not be forced into complying with KYC requirements if you wish to operate in the US or EU without getting rugged like what has recently happened with Samurai? How do you plan to stay out of prison? How do you plan to handle requests for customer identifying information and transaction histories?