Right now the few ways I see that working intuitively is either with some subscription management in the form of nwc and allowing control of funds to be drawn or the “fountain” method of adding sats to a custodial balance that gets drawn against. 

Also agree that Bitcoiners is a narrow market of people and despite zaps, are less willing to part with their money vs others. 

 I could see some light at the end of the tunnel with well-functioning subscriptions, but even then it’s an uphill battle. 

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