Oddbean

If I create a bot that creates a new npub to reply to your every note with harassment and improper content is that fine and ever report your npub? I mean its a decentralized open network so it's fine right? Or maybe don't use nostr. Everything is possible, but there is good and bad options to achieve something, this is a community and you can be a good or a bad actor for the whole experience in Nostr. If saying suck it up I do what I want is your view, fine. It's not mine.

Glad this is staying a civil but spirited debate because it's an interesting philosophical argument. On one hand people shouldn't expect privacy in a public space, that is true both online and offline. If however, in physical space I followed you around 24/7 and provided commentary on every comment you made, you would want to punch me in the face. For a moment let's set aside the technical responses such as: encrypt your messages, or run your own private relay. That kinda defeats the purpose of participating in a public network. So, is the act of someone programatically categorizing your content a form of harassment? Would providing an opt out mechanism satisfy both parties?

Harrasement is not desirable. While the definition of “unwanted content” is up to each individual, everybody should have accessible tools to curate their own best content experience. Indeed … ones persons WoT filter may in fact be another persons spam bot, and that’s OK. Nostr needs better WoT tools, not fewer. A scalable WoT solution for Nostr will inevitably involve some standard for users to choose their own “is trusted” accounts and content filters across clients. This is an interesting and active space for discussion… nostr:note1m69f00rzyqrgwlrcsx56dxr8572rj4psl6zqr0cpqwvjl83mfyrsugevgv

I think my opinion is that unfortunately anonymity and a complete lack of censorship always results in undesirable content persisting. A person can have no censorship if there is forced personal accountability for content that is subject to community dissent and law enforcement. If there is anonymity, there must be centralized censorship to moderate content for the platform to remain civilized.

Absolutely. I even accept to be reported by the bot in a thread where a subscriber is engaging or even if is not engaging but i replied to someone he follows, so I'm in his feed. Because the way I see it the bot is just doing what the user would probably do anyway. The scope is reduced. But currently I'm reported forever at any time, a user would not go out of his way to report every note of everyone including the ones out of his broad circle.

@Ronin I appreciate your concerns and what reportinator is right now is a flawed experiment. Sometimes it helps sometimes it gets things wrong. Let’s talk. Also I think there are some straight up bugs where it should be reporting a post and not a person. Or where it flags people talking about being harassed as harassment. I also think this is about content labeling so users can be empowered to shape their own experience, the name “report” comes from appstore requirements and is causing a lot of confusion. This can be better.