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 The Cash App card is the closest thing I have found to this.

Reloadable debit, round-ups, and direct deposit any % into bitcoin with no fees. 
 Cashapp has been my Go to for awhile now but having to jump on the computer just to check my balance or move money is a non starter.  
 How else would you know your balance or move money? Unless I'm mistaken, you have to either use a computer, a smartphone, or call into the bank.  
 A smartphone. I want to just use it on the go from my phone but the cashapp app doesn't work on Graphene OS  
 Oh I see. Any way to side-load it? Or will the app just not work on a non-standard ROM?  
 It will download just fine but you are unable to log into your account. Just get into a doom loop of never being able to log in. Very frustrating Bec it is a good service  
 I wonder if the devs have restricted its use on devices with an unlocked bootloader, or a non-factory ROM?  
 I'm not sure if it's on the cashapp side or Graphene. Fold and strike work just fine. Cashapp and NFC is the only thing I have found that won't work  
 I bet it's reading the bootloader status flag, or the factory/non-factory ROM flag and preventing operation is one or both of them are tripped. I sorta understand their desire to prevent their system from being accessed by a non-standard device. I know they're not the only one who takes similar precautions. Some other banking and financial apps also restrict use to official, standard devices.  
 They’re a regulated finance company so this of probably something their compliance department requires. They also disabled Lightning features for NY users based KYC location. 
 I've used cashapp on a graphene phone.

Do you have play services and the store running? 
 Cash App gets a bad rap among the more hardcore bitcoiners, probably due to KYC requirements, but I think it's a really convenient and reasonable service. I was able to buy bitcoin in under a minute using the app. I didn't even need to wait for confirmations. And the coin was on its way to my self-custodial wallet literally a minute after I bought. Also, their rate was good, and didn't include some jacked up premium.  
 Be that as it may, it’s pretty much all I use. 
 Same!

Not going back to Coinbase and swan is a non-starter after being grandfathered in. 

I also like that sending sats to self-custody can only take a few hours using the “free 24-hour” option. 
 Free on-chain withdrawal is great. I can’t use their Lightning feature but I can buy sats and deposit to my node to open a channel. 
 Being outside of NY, I'm still able to do lightning transactions. It sucks that NY has restricted lightning. Very shortsighted and oppressive if you ask me.  
 Yep. The New York struggle is still real for us. I just kick those sats to boltz. 
 Cash App is super underrated. I’ve gotten a bunch of people into using Bitcoin simply because I was able to show them how easy it was with their Cash App. I just tell them how to get their address or Lightning invoice and then send them some. The rest of the process is self evident 
 Cash ap w bitkey is my goto. I'm homeless and don't have a place to secure a seed phrase. Additionally wo a permanent address local banks ans credit unions wont accept me. 
 It sucks that institutional discrimination against those without a permanent address still exists in banking. Like life isn't already hard enough. It's great that you're pushing through and making it work despite the obstacles.  
 Totally with you on that! The Cash App card really makes it easy to manage money and invest in Bitcoin. Love those round-ups! It’s a game changer for sure! 💸🚀