Oddbean

There were some Jews on land to begin with. Also some Christians were on the land. Should they get political control over Israel? Because a. Palestine is occupied by Israel for decades and defence is natural. Offensive tactics can be a part of a defensive strategy if you were about to ask. B. Israel was and is doing everything to provoke Hamas for any action so they can continue justifying their offensive. I can only repeatedly recommend listening to episodes on Istrael on Bitcoin standard podcast by @saifedean What charter do you have in mind?

Aren’t repeated suicide bombings and the actions that occurred 1 year ago some form of provocation? Do you think it is the victim’s fault? Would you really ignore what extreme Muslims think about Jews? They openly state they want to commit genocide against the Jews (and Christians). Show me an instance of a Jewish suicide bomber, or Jews cutting a man’s head off with a shovel, or Jews executing teenage girls at point blank range. You can’t, because they don’t exist. There is an abundance of Muslims doing these things and recording themselves doing them. Palestine has repeatedly refused any peace agreements because they hate the Jews so much. Anybody supporting Hamas is on the wrong side of history. I don’t think there should be war, but what would you do if you were in the position of Israel? Did those born there ask to be born there? Is it the fault of anyone alive that Jews returned to Israel? Why does every Muslim on the planet believe Jews should have no home?

And the Israel state openly wants (and does) ethnicly clence palestine. If you noticed my first point was that it has nothing to do with religiouns and stories and everything to do with property and government control

@efenigson would you be so kind to provide some sources about Israel atrocities and on Natanyahu supporting Hamas? I don’t collect/memorize sources so it’s hard for me to provide them on demand.. I fully understand if you are not participating in this conversation as you are living in this sad sad war situation yourself 🏳️