Oddbean

😆 VISA is the largest payment network in the world: • "promoting" them or not will make exactly zero difference. • Are you saying you don't have a debit or credit card? • It's about dropping the *dollar,* not VISA. VISA doesn't counterfeit entire countries worth of money every month, they just do bank cards and retail payments.

No. I do not have any visa card anymore. From 2018 I live only using Bitcoin. How are you "dropping" the dollar when you go with a visa card to pay? visa is using only fake dollars IOUs. Going to a merchant to pay with a visa card you are LITERALLY supporting fiat. Shame to see this from you Guy... defending the use of fiat instead of promoting the use of bitcoin.

Watch and learn why we need to drop fiat in any shape or form, including those visa cards... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nCzzgEwC7s I was expecting this comment from anybody else but not from you Guy Swan...

😲 Didn't expect this take from Guy Swann either. Dropping the dollar might be the first step, but it's not the end game. You cannot become free if you insist on using their private payment networks instead of the bitcoin/lightning network. I do have a debit and credit card and bank account but I'm not exactly proud of it. We should aim towards a world where we can use bitcoin everywhere, and we don't depend on their networks/systems. Using TBC prepaid visa is a crutch, not the goal. Those in power can take non-KYC prepaid cards away if they want to. Let's not lose sight of that.

This is what people don’t get. Visa is a company motivated by profit. Visa could plug bitcoin into their network and overnight make accepting bitcoin for payments trivial. If they don’t they could possibly die. Anyone with a brain can see the lightning network is far superior to their current network. Visa took decades to get where they are today.

Thanks Swann! Glad someone has some sanity in this foolish purity test. Visa using fiat dollars to move value today in 2040 it can be sats. It’s just a network. Clearly people haven’t done their homework on how visa came to power. Listen to this: https://fountain.fm/clip/H5KxZ9Hc8ULULAYySob3 If you got 3 hours to kill: https://fountain.fm/episode/vxY9eBOLOYOZcajqbeos You will learn how visa used the Olympics to push merchant adoption. Then boom an explosion to make payments more convenient but to this day merchants still hate cards.