Oddbean

Returns is something innate to capitalism. You put your own labour and/or property (intellectual property, money, durable goods, land, etc.) at risk, through use of it, in the hopes of receiving some positive return. Lending money at interest, in order to increase the total purchasing power in line with inflation, is fiat.

i think simply having a surplus is the basis of any such utility of bitcoin, something in common with gold and other long term inflation hedges it means you are a lower risk for a lender as well, but i think you already grasp that point (as in, you can cover losses because you have a surplus)

But private reserves are only useful for private people. Companies need their own reserve, where their reserves are under governance by the members and the directors. This means that they are much more valuable to business partners. Those company reserves are also more valuable to the owners of the company, when combined, than separated into a private wallet for each person, because they can be used to increase the amount of business conducted at an above-linear rate. So, Betty has 2 Bitcoin. John has 3 Bitcoin. Frank has 5 Bitcoin. Sally has ¾ Bitcoin. They each put ½ Bitcoin into their company reserve (or the company earns that amount, in their names, and they don't pull that money out). That company now has 2 Bitcoin, and they each own ¼ of it, but they jointly control it. If they try to close a business deal with a different company (rent equipment, hire an employee, contract a supplier, etc.) the other company will say, but are you solvent? Yes. Our company has 2 Bitcoin in reserve. No problem. We got cash. But this 2 Bitcoin is now at risk for loss, so they are compensated for accepting that risk with any profits the company collects.

this guy is a "purist" and will reject everything until post-hyperbitcoinisation, that's why i muted them lol, so irritating i paid valve and amazon for stuff without a bank "still not bitcoin bla bla bla tldr"