To our valued Wallet of Satoshi community in the United States of America, We've dedicated ourselves to providing the best Bitcoin experience with Wallet of Satoshi, being at the forefront of Lightning usability and adoption. However, we've made the difficult decision to remove our app from the U.S. Apple and Google app stores, and will not serve U.S. customers going forward. This decision doesn't come lightly. Our commitment to providing a secure, user-friendly, and compliant platform globally is unwavering. Our top priority is the safety and interests of our customers and our company. We understand this may be disappointing news and we share your frustration. We're hopeful that future developments will allow us to revisit and possibly resume our operations in the U.S. For our existing users in the USA, rest assured that you have full access to your Bitcoin funds. You can seamlessly withdraw and transfer them to another wallet. We deeply appreciate your support and understanding. We remain committed to bringing the benefits of Bitcoin to as many as possible. Stay tuned for updates, and thank you for being a part of our community. Peace, Love and Bitcoin, The Wallet of Satoshi Team 🧡
K, bye
It is what it is. “Protect yourself from the bite.”
Ok that’s straight forward. Now it will help what it is that makes serving US customers an issue? I am assuming it’s compliance but what specifically??
There is no real answer. Most companies over comply with no real understanding beyond "we better pre comply with anything we can think of".
Do Australian users need to worry @Wallet of Satoshi ?
U.S. Customers only " However, we've made the difficult decision to remove our app from the U.S. Apple and Google app stores, and will not serve U.S. customers going forward. This decision doesn't come lightly. Our commitment to providing a secure, user-friendly, and compliant platform globally is unwavering."
🫂 we need to bring back shooting iphones
Uhm, ... no. Apple didn't remove them. Read the post.
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maybe you should reread it
Let me read the relevant part to you: > we've made the difficult decision to remove our app from the U.S. Apple and Google app stores
Fuck the state. The fact that you've been pushed into taking this action is anti-freedom in the supposed land of the free.
Not surprised 🐶🐾😭
There are many US bitcoin companies that can’t operate in Canada because of the compliance rules, policies, and laws. It’s not worth their effort. This is totally normal.
There is no such thing as a Bitcoin company. A Company is anchored in the State and is ultimately a branch of the State. Bitcoin and Company are diametrically opposed. Only one can survive (at least in the form that we understand them today).
Private property is not a branch of the state
If you have to register said property, it sort of is part of the State. It's "yours" with the State's permission.
WE PUT OUR NODES IN OUR PHONES NOW 👋
at a 20% setup fee I'll pass.
Freedom ain’t free, my dude.
I better be able to get my btc out of your wallet.
I just moved my funds successfully. Sorry friends, no zaps til I figure out an alternative. Ideas welcome.💜
Did you found a alternative?
WoS is the best LN wallet for daily use. Cheap, simple, hassle-free transactions. The US is slowly becoming a concentration camp run by the establishment and @Apple. Fortunately there are plenty of other options for US citizens and maybe this will make a proper competitor to WoS. https://m.primal.net/HRGb.png nostr:note1cu575mfy2xdakh9aklhghhn8vmluwkh79anrh09vmexgw5m3tyrq2edm2z
"will not serve US customers going forward" So ID KYC or what nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzvupzp0sa39u5h7fduhwkfs0xpa4zcuxpgz46exfjgx87uvx9ccmla9reqvzqqqqqqyrtghp2
ทาง Wallet of satoshi ได้ออกมาประกาศแล้วนะ ด้วยเหตุผลบางอย่างที่อาจเกิดขึ้นในการมี server ที่อเมริกาเลยจึงถอนตัวออกจากที่นั้นแต่ทุกคนยังใช้งานและโอนออกได้อย่างปกติหากมีข่าวสารเพิ่มเติมจะแจ้งอีกครั้ง จากเรื่องที่เกิดขึ้นอาจมีอะไรบ้างอย่างที่นั้นคงส่งผลต่อการประกอบกิจการที่เกี่ยวกับบิตคอยน์และอาจทำให้เติบโตได้ยากทาง wos เลยตัดสินใจย้ายออก #Siamstr nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspramhxue69uhhget9d45k2vfdwfjkccte9ej82cmtv3h8xtn0wfnsyg97rkyhjjle9hja6expuc8k5trsc9q2htyexfqclm3schrr0l550ypsgqqqqqqsfr2mzm
When we will download from a f-droid repo?
Never. And it wouldn't make much sense to make WoS open source.
I think I am European, and that’s a fact. https://i.nostrimg.com/eeb1b8f5d6e7914c3856f8d6268bc33ae2e6deb641db1215f5c21fcad34c9f18/file.jpeg
And it's just a wallet - you'd figure out it isn't sending/receiving sats pretty darn quick, lol.
Tick-Tock next block. 🕰️⚡️💜 Mission 2 is accomplished.💰🎡🤹🏻♂️ #SiamStr nostr:note1cu575mfy2xdakh9aklhghhn8vmluwkh79anrh09vmexgw5m3tyrq2edm2z
Enjoy your stay in the Third World nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzyzlpmztef0ujmewavnq7vrm293cvzs9t4jvnysv0accvt33hl628jqcyqqqqqqgf5khq5
Best of luck. 🤞 If may I ask, what is the problem that pushed you to withdraw?
It's the federal mixing rule (along with other things), which it seems they are refusing to fight in court (it hasn't been finalized yet, but it will be soon). https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2023/10/23/2023-23449/proposal-of-special-measure-regarding-convertible-virtual-currency-mixing-as-a-class-of-transactions (Comment period on this ends in early 2024) There is also an extremely strong anti-bitcoin (and anti-any-sort-of-digital-innovation) climate as a result of what is happening in the federal government in the United States right now. See recent SEC prosecutions, etc. This doesn't make it impossible for people to operate in the USA, but it does make it extraordinarily onerous and it does make it increasingly necessary for individuals and organizations to plan legal battles simply to continue to use decentralized, distributed, dis-intermediated systems in the United States. Now, Wallet of Satoshi could ally with various other groups including pro-bitcoin groups that have had success at defending both industry groups and individuals from legal onslaughts. Instead, nostr:nprofile1qqstu8vf099ljt09m4jvres0dgk8ps2q4wkfjvjp3lhrp3wxxllfg7gpr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9uk2u3wve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5q37amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3dwfjkccte9ejxjemfw3skcmt0vgh8ymcpr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ymt0w3hju7re0gzdyv3a is retreating with its tail between its legs. Let me add that an organization that absconds from a state, I can understand. For example, Kraken removed itself from New York after New York decided to implement the NY bitlicense, which meant that individuals in New York would not be able to be served by Kraken, but that corporations that had been formed out of NY or individuals residing outside of NY would be able to be served by Kraken. At that time, Kraken had released a blog post which described in detail exactly why they were leaving New York and explicitly described Kraken's total opposition to the NY bitlicense. As time went on it was apparent that it was still possible that NY residents could be part of a corporation that was incorporated outside of NY and thus could be part of a business / corporate account on Kraken along with other corporate officers, although today a person residing in NY cannot have an account as an individual on Kraken. Since many exchanges withdrew from NY when NY implemented the bitlicense, I wonder how many exchanges will withdraw from serving clients in California when California's bitlicense (AB 39, now law) goes into effect in around a year's time. I hope many of them will, but there would be an enormous impact on the market if they do so and I don't think all of them would be willing to give up the money, they'd rather cave to California's demands. So as I said, I think that it's understandable if an exchange (or a software business, or any kind of bitcoin oriented organization) decides it might not want to serve a particular state (because of licensing requirements they don't agree with, so long as THEY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT'S THE REASON FOR WITHDRAWAL from that state). However, withdrawing from an entire COUNTRY seems ridiculous to me unless you are acknowledging that you simply aren't capable of serving the people in that country. Wallet of Satoshi's statement that they "will not serve" people in the USA is not acknowledging Wallet of Satoshi's own inability to figure out a way to serve people in the USA - rather, it's just a cop-out by saying they "will not serve" people in the USA. Sound negative? Sure, but I'm just being honest. Do better, Wallet of Satoshi.
I think I would do the same, the battle against states is a very high stakes battle, and you can't expect that anyone will just take that challenge if they don't have to. the world is bigger than just the US, and if they will have a very huge discrepancy in the amount of work and risks thay have to take just to take care of US citizens, jeopardizing their whole operation worldwide, I'd say sorry US citizens... just like a lot of companies have been doing the same to EU citizens which I'm a part of and am already used to not having certain products. legislation is so much wasted effort trying to play by their rules but they can change those anytime to tilt the scales in their favor and rendering your past efforts moot. the only solution is to take technology to a space where they can't do shit, that means outside of regulations and infrastructures they control. there is no middleground, everything capturable will be captured.
nostr:nprofile1qqsfa3a80qt847caxrzgx00fxgk6psyt5udxncv3r42h35c5fw6kgdcpremhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet59uq36amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3dwfjkccte9emkcann9eehqctrv5hsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0ny4j7h Interesting rationale, so if I were to accept your reasoning, which I don't, then essentially all wallet developers / teams would rapidly go defunct shortly after some layer of state pressure is exerted upon them to give up and fold. cc: nostr:nprofile1qqsw4wp8ql3zr780z33e7a03ha5rxange5lhnpmuz0gvld427ht2wfqpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcpzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7msr3pk nostr:nprofile1qqsw8tha4zrj22njem340rfnktwdjr5lu5achmtrglh4ufhhggg6mwcpzdmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82c30qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq32amnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwv3sk6atn9e5k7tcknc4n2 nostr:nprofile1qqsf03c2gsmx5ef4c9zmxvlew04gdh7u94afnknp33qvv3c94kvwxgspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9rhwden5te0wfjkcctev93xcefwdaexwtcpzdmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82c303dhy7r By the way, see this: nostr:nevent1qqsxh9dgkfxl5hqxgxdwcq4mn4c6yfewp9kd2hynaawyqjw25vz64ycpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9rhwden5te0wfjkcctev93xcefwdaexwtcpzdmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82c30qyvhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnndehhyapwwdhkx6tpdshsz8rhwden5te0vf6kx6m9wshxxmmjv93kcefwwdhkx6tpdshszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qghwaehxw309a3xjarrda5kuetj9eek7cmfv9kz7qg7waehxw309ahx7um5wgkhqatz9emk2mrvdaexgetj9ehx2ap0qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskuep0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfnj78e5ec9
i met two wonderful people on here as the result of an australian node runner (who onboarded them with wos) criticizing me for minding my own business onboarding noobs and NOT recommending wos. he got so pissed off at me, now look at what's happened. boy was he wrong. told you so nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspzemhxue69uhkzarvv9ejumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgq3qhcwcj72tlyk7thtyc8nq763vwrq5p2avnyeyrrlwxrzuvdl7j3usxpqqqqqqzp6nvg3
This is why we FOSS.
Show me a custodial wallet that is FOSS. It kind of makes no sense.
Exactly.
Obviously you've been pushed to do this. Been seeing this for years with CEXs, and wallets. It was just a matter of time. #Bitcoin is NOT compatible with fiat, you can't marry the two. Self-custody is a pillar of the Bitcoin ethos, and its eco-system, as well as P2P TXing. Many of these services try to bridge the gap, there is no gap, there's an option to be taken. Opt out of fiat, or don't. It's a hard truth. I understand the valuable service you guys provide, but it's important to consider that as the lightning experience improves over time, keeping custody of users' funds is not the way to go - decentralisation of control is a way to cover yourselves. The separation of money and state is a fight. To them, you're collateral.
Thanks for what you’ve done in USA.
Time to run your on LN node US bros and babes, its been real now you get to try out real Lightning
Can you please give some hint as to the reasoning behind ypur decision? Thanks
Custodians are getting more heat. WoS would probably need a license to operate as the money transmitter they are.
if so, then it's not a commodity and should be treated in the US as currency
WoS is great starter waller, shame for new USA plebs
Your post is attracting a lot of attention. Added to the https://nostraco.in/hot feed
make the wallet downloadable directly from your website WHY THE FUCK ONE SHOULD GO THROUGH GOOGLE AND APPLE IF NOT TO KEEP TRACK OF USERS???? MAKE IT DOWNLOADABLE USING TOR OF COURSE
SET UP COMPANY IN EL SALVADOR AND SET UP A WEBSITE FOR DOWNLOADING THE SOFTWARE
Good luck. I reckon UK is next
EU next.
Did you not see this coming? Plan accordingly.
nostr:note1cu575mfy2xdakh9aklhghhn8vmluwkh79anrh09vmexgw5m3tyrq2edm2z Wallet of Satoshi stáhne appku z App Store a Google Play ve Spojených státech.
Todo mundo se esta haciendo eco de lo que sucede con las tiendas de Apple en USA y la prohibición o los bloqueos que pueden realizar a las aplicaciones, como es el caso de @Wallet of Satoshi y @ZEUS (como ejemplo). Siempre he defendido y lo seguiré haciendo, la libertad de las empresas a poner sus reglas. "Mi casa, mis normas!". Pero también seguiré diciendo y abogando para que abramos los ojos y veamos que existen alternativas, incluso mejores (y no va por WoS), que además de darte mayor libertad, te dan mejor servicio y de manera soberana. El futuro nos alcanza, la libertad se esta volviendo un tesoro, no lo dejes pasar, valoralo y esfuérzate por entenderlo y ponerla en práctica, requiere un esfuerzo, si, pero la libertad lo merece! nostr:note1cu575mfy2xdakh9aklhghhn8vmluwkh79anrh09vmexgw5m3tyrq2edm2z
Taking tough decisions by a team always deserves respect. My Respect goes out to @Wallet of Satoshi for not beeing bend by the US ruleset and go their own way to deliver freedome and resist KYC for all of us. There is no Lightning with KYC. This must be understood. I really hope that you guys use this tough decision for a political statement towards the authorities that violate your freedome. I liked what you do. But now you deserve even somd love guys! Keep on developing the freedome. nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpsppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5pzp0sa39u5h7fduhwkfs0xpa4zcuxpgz46exfjgx87uvx9ccmla9reqvzqqqqqqyafvaaf
Why not say this a week ago? Give customers warning before you remove the app! If someone doesnt already have it installed they lose their funds?
Can you elaborate how somebody might have funds in WoS without having it installed? Also it's not like you can't install it. I can send you the APK right here.
At any moment for any reason they uninstallcthe app, there is no way to get it back. They dont have the apk available on github or their website. I wouldnt trust it from a third party source.
WoS are tied to your email address. https://image.nostr.build/d1990591195a6bbf536857563f156865f880b42d2bdff2b511d066e65ca40e8b.png As long as you control that, you probably can withdraw in some way. If enough people or funds are affected, they will probably provide some form to withdraw without installing the app. An apk from a third-party source could be verified by any user with access to the app on the Play Store by checking for compatibility. So imagine I give you the version 4 apk and your friend in Norway can install the version 5 apk from Play Store. He now can install my apk and update it in the play app. If that works, both were signed by the same keys. You can check the signature without installing it but that's a bit more involved for the layperson.
I know what you mean 💯 The worry I would have is this is the way people lpse their funds all the time and install malicious apps accidently. I dont believe you would do that by sharing this app! I have just naturally stayed away from getting apps this way. Same for sotes like apkmirror and others. Its a big risk, but it can work 💯. Just need to be cautious. I am already cautious with open source apps from Obtainium. Closed source apps from tbird parties terrify me. 😅🙏
Still have the app. The Abby wallet connection seems shitty. Probably transfer my funds (when I figure out how) or give them away. Makes me even less interested in the Bitcoin crap now. And in nostr as well.
I get you bro. Its discouraging for me as well. My bitcoin learning journey has been rough. But its our own fault for using WoS from the beginning. We knew it was non custodial all along. We knew a rug pull would be one day. This is only a call to be more self sovereign. 💪
Or just avoid Bitcoin all together.
What do you save money in, if not Bitcoin?
All the usual suspects. Best thing might be something tangible. Like land.
Hmmm.. not sure about that. Patience my friend.
No thanks. Seems like a fad. Like MySpace.
Happily receiving your sats if you're out. Though it feels like you're trolling. Or maybe you haven't done your research and are very emotional 🤷🏻♂️ Bitcoin, though being around for 15 years is still new technology and we are all early adopters here, especially with the Lightning network. Lightning right now should be thought of as "in beta". It's very close to ready for mass market and closer every day but it is still in development, people are saying this all over the place so i am sorry to hear if this information slipped past you. I'm must say that if you didn't know all of this already, then you shouldn't have had much allocated and if you didn't have much allocated you would have nothing much to worry about. Don't put your life savings in lightning! And only put them on main chain when you have actually done your research and have developed understanding and conviction for the risk/reward. I and many others here would genuinely like to help you understand all of the above so please if you have questions just ask. If it's not for you though... c'est la vie.
And say it with me people: "Not your keys, not your coins"
Bitcoin is the EV of money.
Confirmed troll...
Y’all make it too easy
Taking advantage of the kindness and curiosity of others for your own self satisfaction and some sense of self agrandizement is a real mental problem. Seek therapy.
What kindness are you referring too?
Whatever bro... you've proved yourself beyond help so i'm out ✌🏼
Fact is you don’t have an example of the kindness you referred too.
Look, this is my last comment unless you come back with something constructive or some humility. If you can't see the helpfulness and kindness in this community then you see the world through a very dark lense indeed and I pity you. I honestly wish you the best in your life and hope that you find some light because you need it.
I’ve definitely gotten a lot of things from this community. That being all nostr users. From you, pretty much nothing. Nostr will be fine without Bitcoin. And very helpful in many ways. No Bitcoin needed.
It's good to hear that you're getting something from this community. 👍🏻 Maybe you missed the part in my post where I tried explaining a few things about lightning networks infancy and offered my assistance but however, as you didnt respond to that part of my note and just gave some troll-esque response then no, I guess you havent received any help from me, but that's on you. The offer still stands as long as common decency does. You're right in saying that NOSTR doesnt need bitcoin. But personally (and i think most here would agree) it enhances the experience by allowing the transfer of value. You're allowed to disagree, that's the beauty of free speech right? 😘
Come on, stop being so dramatic. No one got “rugged”. A business decided to no longer offer their services in the USA. Everyone can withdrawal their funds if they want. There are many companies that don’t offer their apps in certain jurisdictions. Have you run your own node? Opened and maintained your own channels? It’s not an easy, or free thing to do. Cash app, strike, and a myriad of other “good” companies don’t offer their services in my jurisdiction. Does that make them bad actors? Of course not. Custodial solutions are necessary for lightning right now, for the majority of users, because of all the choke points in running your own node. It won’t be like this forever. If I lose the 10$ - 20$ I have in a custodial lightning wallet so be it. It’s the price of playing the game. This is a nuanced issue with many different individual circumstances that dictates one’s choice to use or not use a custodial lightning wallet. It’s not a simplistic “run your own node!” situation.
I didnt say half the things you mentioned. Its the way WoS did this. Where is the warning? Just pull the app, on Thanksgiving day? They know its the biggest onboarding day of the year basically. If you dont have the app installed now, good luck getting it. I dont have these worries. Im in Canada and stilk use WoS. Its Americans I feel bad for. Its a rug pull in some sense of definition. We all define things slightly differently. Nothing dramatic about these realizations.
That’s the best point. It’s just a game. Zapathons etc. Disconnecting Bitcoin from nostr is most likely a good thing for nostr. I like Damus. Never thought much about Bitcoin and zaps. But WoS just made Damus look bad. Like Trump on Twitter.
Let me get that. Lol. I'll use a VPN and keep suooprorting WoS. Lol. Fuck the gov.
Thanks for a great lightning experience. Good luck
Things are getting interesting with Wallet of Satoshi... nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgstu8vf099ljt09m4jvres0dgk8ps2q4wkfjvjp3lhrp3wxxllfg7grqsqqqqqpt60jnt
Custodial wallet frontend should be decoupled from backend. Have an app that can connect to one or more different backends. When lnbits mobile frontend? nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qhcwcj72tlyk7thtyc8nq763vwrq5p2avnyeyrrlwxrzuvdl7j3usxpqqqqqqzk3fh3n
🙏🫵🧡✌️
Curious. Must not have been planned considering the promotion went live just 12 days ago, incentivizing users to onboard for a piece of the commission pie. Wonder what the reason is behind this PR message. nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzp0sa39u5h7fduhwkfs0xpa4zcuxpgz46exfjgx87uvx9ccmla9reqvzqqqqqqypks2rr
Wallet of Satoshi being removed from US app stores. Recommend moving funds from their platform. nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzp0sa39u5h7fduhwkfs0xpa4zcuxpgz46exfjgx87uvx9ccmla9reqvzqqqqqqypks2rr
So if I already have the app is it going to get auto deleted or can I keep using it without updates until I find another lightning wallet?
Apple is being forced by EU laws to enable third party app stores by March 2024. Side loading apps is coming to iOS. nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzp0sa39u5h7fduhwkfs0xpa4zcuxpgz46exfjgx87uvx9ccmla9reqvzqqqqqqypks2rr
@Madnana17 Give @walletofsatoshi a follow nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsyg97rkyhjjle9hja6expuc8k5trsc9q2htyexfqclm3schrr0l550ypsgqqqqqqs32q4qd
Node in the phone time
Hard blow, I hope they can return @Wallet of Satoshi 🤙🏼
Kind of dramatic, wouldn’t you say?
They're up against the banking cartel, and I presume they have families. They've killed people and ruined entire industries without a second thought if it turned a little profit. They take this control over all humanity that they view as their cattle very seriously.
sorry to hear that you're forced to exit the US market amidst the Governments attempt to control and regulate the entire crypto market in the US. I guess this is why we need more non-company app providers so that you can just tell them to fuck off. no company, no attack vector.
Im prepared to mine and trade Bitcoin in the back woods like a West Virginia moonshiner if I have to. Sounds like fun, actually. Did you know NASCAR started with moonshiners souping up regular cars to outrun the feds? Dukes of Hazard for the old crowd 😂
I didn't know that! Maybe we should try to do more of this peer-to-peer stuff I've read about in that white paper thing? I know, crazy idea! 😉
Nah, that's crazy talk ;)
https://image.nostr.build/e29e933a8bdfbcb4849d083001bb908d0086d79dde05d76398c3e9c9612fd5c7.gif nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsyg97rkyhjjle9hja6expuc8k5trsc9q2htyexfqclm3schrr0l550ypsgqqqqqqs4u6ehq
This sucks. This will be a serious setback for orange pilling and onboarding new users F
Your product is excellent, WoS, ZBD may have stolen me for other reasons, but your UX and clean design is chef's kiss. May you be able to return to the states someday if we can manage to unfuck our atrocious and corrupt to the core federal government.
Maybe you need to implement https://www.uma.me?
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Could you have possibly communicated this in a better way, for example announcing this intention, but giving users a month notice? There are also many people who use @Wallet of Satoshi who are not regularly on social media. How will they know?
Over the spring/summer I had a phase where I was extremely doubtful of bitcoin, and honestly libertarianism as a whole. I'm in the process of coming out of that funk. Took too many black pills. That said, WoS thing should be a reminder that some black pills are necessary. nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzp0sa39u5h7fduhwkfs0xpa4zcuxpgz46exfjgx87uvx9ccmla9reqvzqqqqqqypks2rr
The amount of reactions says alot to how many people will be rugged
Now that we know the truth, I'm less than optimistic than I was yesterday when I played the disappearance down. Voluntarily removing their app from the US app stores is one thing, but doing it on Thanksgiving Day when most American's will be busy and wouldn't notice is another. Any other day could have been chosen. I wish you the best of luck, WoS, I truly do, but this was a less than optimal plan that was executed badly. If your plans change I'm the future and you come back to US markets or you implement a web version, it will be hard to trust you again. Sorry Nostriches. I was wrong. nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspzemhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2un9d3shjtnrdakj7q3qhcwcj72tlyk7thtyc8nq763vwrq5p2avnyeyrrlwxrzuvdl7j3usxpqqqqqqz50r2tj
"Sorry Nostriches. I was wrong." 🫡
So we’re breaking up 😢
>Sorry Nostriches. I was wrong. Respect for owning it, you've mostly always been reasonable. Time to learn and only "on-board" people the right way, even if it's at the cost of rapid adoption.
Thanks. I mostly onboard people to Mutiny and Zeus as it stands now ;) I can only think of a few times I recommended WoS. And when I did, I told people to free to their own self custodial solutions.
And you didnt give even a slight notice ahead of time because...?
rumors aside, this is what #wos has done... #smij is disappointed. by them and many of the shit people are saying. too bad. plenty of shame to go around. more than ever, we need to #grownostr nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzvupzp0sa39u5h7fduhwkfs0xpa4zcuxpgz46exfjgx87uvx9ccmla9reqvzqqqqqqyrtghp2
open your code, give wallet our keys nostr:note1cu575mfy2xdakh9aklhghhn8vmluwkh79anrh09vmexgw5m3tyrq2edm2z
Time to allow users to backup their channel state and go full open source. I would donate if you guys did this.
Holy shit, it wasn't even regulatory! While still not truly a rug pull, this is a piss poor decision based solely on cowardice. nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm4wfex2mn59en8j6gzyzlpmztef0ujmewavnq7vrm293cvzs9t4jvnysv0accvt33hl628jqcyqqqqqqgr79x2d
Wooooooooooow! 👀 nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsyg97rkyhjjle9hja6expuc8k5trsc9q2htyexfqclm3schrr0l550ypsgqqqqqqs32q4qd
This non-explanation explains much nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzp0sa39u5h7fduhwkfs0xpa4zcuxpgz46exfjgx87uvx9ccmla9reqvzqqqqqqypks2rr
Sad to hear you are departing “the land of the free.” We have much work and bureaucratic firings that need to happen here. Much love.
The exits are closing, y'all. Learn how to use decentralized alternatives like bisq. nostr:note1cu575mfy2xdakh9aklhghhn8vmluwkh79anrh09vmexgw5m3tyrq2edm2z
This unannounced bullshit cost me 30k Sats. Fuck you.
The only person who you should be mad to is you personally. You know the risks of non-custodial wallets and secondly blabe the US government for that and not folks that only limiting their legal risks!
Fuck off. Now I’m mad at you for this bullshit reply, too.
Great to hear we are getting along 🫂
If you keep wanting to be compliant, you aren't going to be on the same side as Bitcoin
please tell us the legal reasons why... Call out the US authorities that don't want their people to have access to free market commodities like Bitcoin.
Yo you guys should reach out to me. I might be able to help you in this matter. cosmichodl@protonmail.com
That's crazy news.
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Why
This sort of thing https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1728810999355175212
Because the US government
How
Has anything on this changed? My app just updated from Google Play.
Haaaa we were right it Self removed only U.S region
Also yea thanks 🫡
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ahhh, okay. i don't think wos can send or receive to the us anymore after they pulled out of the app stores here without citing any reason, leaving everyone high and dry nostr:nevent1qqsvw202d5j9rx7mtj7m0m5tmenkdl78ttlz7e3mhjkduny82dc4jpspzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsyg97rkyhjjle9hja6expuc8k5trsc9q2htyexfqclm3schrr0l550ypsgqqqqqqs32q4qd