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 i just point to the fact that israel and CIA have the same birthday and leave it at that

an entire nation that is founded upon being a forward base pretending to be a religion in hostile territory where a massive stash of essential energy resources are concentrated

seems like a clever ruse to cloak a whole country as being some kind of defense of judaism and the old, and obsolete, you are a christian right? obsolete "promised land" story that is long expired and irrelevant and history 
 IMO gog vs magog = USA vs Russia and that's also why they located it next to the geddon plains

and in before "but jews lived there before" yes, they did, that's why there is synagogues there in an ancient city that has been around over 4000 years, still doesn't change the military strategic intelligence value of capturing that territory, especially when the location already was occupied by both muslims and jews and a substantial number of christians for centuries before that 
 if the promise was already fulfilled then it was a deception to claim that this was what it was later

the state of israel was orchestrated by the same people who created the CIA, the KGB, the state of Russia, probably even the state of USA

it is incumbent upon the believer to pray to God and to listen for His answers and clearly if they thought it was a good idea to set up their house in the middle of a region that has not seen peace for more than 1 year out of 4 since its inception i question whether God would suggest to anyone to go live there, unless they specifically asked for some excitement and death

maybe my perspective is different because i have had unquestionable experiences of answered prayers and they were absolutely unquestionable, i mean, literally, something whispers "wait here" and a minute later solutions for my short term situation are solved and as well i get to experience the grace and cultural products of northern italians

i think maybe for some the road is hard but i don't think they were even making the requests if they follow along with "let's live in palestine" narrative after the last 40 years, i mean, honestly, in all of my 48 years i don't remember a decade without half of it being filled with stories on the news of bombs this and rockets that over israel

i think that the state of israel is a false israel and the people of israel are just as dispersed as they ever have been, and always will be

go look up the history of the forced migrations inflicted on people at the end of WW2

they also forced all the germans to migrate to modern germany, a fabrication that has only existed since the late 17th century at all, and coerced a lot of ethnic jews to move to israel

who were these people listening to? the men with guns or their Lord? 
 They're probably playing "Pretend Tribulation" with everything they do, including Israel. 

Jesus doesn't brake promises neither. When he said that he'd be back within this generation, he didn't mean thousands of years later:
https://cdn.satellite.earth/05865bc0a851eab0b92804ad0a2c36449384b706e2906fe2b6e8d6fa1d0a3906.jpg

Revelation makes a lot more sense to me if we're in the little season. Deception ATH.