Oddbean

@rabble asked, "What does a Nostr Community Growth Team look like?" Maybe a coalition of folks from the different teams working on Nostr? Team Damus, Team Primal, Team @wavlake, etc all joining together virtually to foster growth is what comes to my mind. I’m on Team #V4V, which includes my podcast, #RadioDetox, @Ainsley, Wavlake, @tunestr, @RSS Blue, @fountain_app, & @PhantomPowerMedia. (Much of the above stems from @NostrPHX) I’ve onboarded 4 people to Nostr and I’m observing them having the same experience I had: You join, kick some tires, and go, “OK, this is cool, but now what?” You don’t “get it” yet or don’t get the interaction you’d hoped for so you bounce for a bit. The learning curve scares you off. Or maybe you just don’t use it often enough because you’re still having to “be everywhere” to promote music or business. I joined Feb 2023 and didn’t come back til the end of the year. I just onboarded 2 coworkers who didn’t need my help setting up wallets and who haven’t been very active. I onboarded a social media client of mine who likes it but doesn’t have the time to be active and who wants to learn more about Bitcoin. (Because, again, we’re very Bitcoin-centric here). I onboarded @Chrisnicholsmusic, who hasn’t been active since. He’s a musician in the UK with a day job, and I keep poking at him to get on here more. Which leads me to the purpose of #RadioDetox, and that is to tell the V4V story. I’ve so far had 3 music artists plus one music business executive on as guests. An interview with a dev is next. I’m currently on a journey to talk to a few devs and BTS folks right now to make sure the podcast covers this aspect of the story. I do plan to get back to talking with people like Chris to see what their impression of Nostr is (so far). Radio Detox is about detoxing off the old systems of the music business, money, and social media. Guests (so far) like Ainsley, @Sara Jade, and @abeljames have shown a good use case for V4V using Wavlake and Tunestr. I’ve talked to @OpenMike, who runs Tunestr about the use case there and where he sees that headed. There’s so much potential here and we’re only getting started. I was talking with Phantom Power about how some of what we talk about on RD can become case studies in this movement. I agree 💯 that we need a plan or program of some kind to support the creators we onboard. It can’t be just, “Hey come join!” And then we walk away… We also need to ensure these creators gain traction by being active on here and sharing content, which means some community involvement. The #Nostr community as a whole needs to embrace these creators—whether they’re in music, art, photography, etc. If you want to continue the #GrowNostr conversation, LMK 🔥 nostr:note1vf43lvfe6tq80jv0ln7vn86m4svuzdqs5ynsru0g0dgmpp2ltdksrpepap

I've had such a similar experience. I'm also from the February 2023 squad but dropped off towards the end of the year for a few months (dropped off everything- I was just completely exhausted). I've brought at least ten or so people across but sadly they posted a couple of times and didn't stick around. Also one or two musicians! I've been nagging my husband to do something here & even he's taking a while. It's a tricky one! Good on you for trying!! Keep up the efforts 💯

Glad you got hooked back in! So it’s not an isolated experience. We are all getting people on here, watching them go “wtf” and wander off… How do we solve this? We’re going to have to ask people why they wander off and WHY they come back (when they do return) 🤙

If you are one of the people who came to Nostr and struggled to find your way, we at Nos would love to talk to you. We’re exploring some new onboarding concepts and are specifically looking for folks who did not have an easy landing. You can send me a DM or reply to this message and I’ll reach out to you directly!

My people left for this is an echochamber. Nobody to argue with, they are way too soaked in twitter toxicity or dedicated to spreading some ancap thoughts there. And I don't bother to onboard people, because of czech language. It's a very few of us here and we can't divide posts to two languages comfortably, so🤷🏻‍♀️

Hi, auto translation is unfortunately out of question with czech. It's very complicated language even when written absolutely without slang. It might work for plain and very boring short notes, but usually misses the point or humor completely, also writes nonsense when translated from en to cz. I'd like to have the option to correct the translation myself straight away or a choice to write basically one note in more "branches" of languages. I think Twitter used to offer me which languages I want to use, then auto translated it in windows below as I wrote it and I could go through that right away and correct it in four languages at once.🤔

Hey friend. Didn’t realize Czech was such a complex language. One of my first bosses was Czech, but I didn’t have many opportunities to study, lol That’s a cool concept around real-time translation. Was it a developer tool or some sort of plugin or something?

I think for people who were familiar with Usenet, MySpace, early to Facebook and early to Twitter, Nostr is a very comfortable place to be. My feed consists of the profiles that I want to follow, nothing else. I post what I want without concerns or worry that it will get taken down or if it will be "controversial". I communicate with other humans, not bots or algorithms. I see NO advertising, NO corporations, and if I do see something I don't like, it is super easy to investigate the source and make a judgement call on whether to mute a profile or just move on. 90% of the time I just move on. Nostr is where humans communicate. Corporate social media is where the human experience goes to die.

Yeah, starting to see bots in Messages. I play with my food long enough to report their profiles. Then I toss the algorithms into the sun. Or actually into solar escape velocity, which is less expensive fuel wise.

I wouldn’t say I’ve had a hard time finding my way. I’ve enjoyed the technical aspects of Nostr and setting up things using my own domains and servers, etc. But I am struggling a bit with content discovery, finding interesting conversations to participate in, and how to deal with trolls effectively.

Setting up most everything for nostr worked fine--getting verified, using an extension, finding the mobile access. BUT, I can't really figure out the wallet/lightening part, including giving and receiving sats. All the helps I read assume I know some element(s) that I don't know.

It's not the first time I've mentioned this, but what worries me is, this is probably the easiest wallet on boarding I've seen in a social network. And yet it's nowhere near friendly enough for people who are new to the whole idea of crypto wallets. That's a real problem. It's not only that it slows down uptake, but even worse, that knowledge gap allows conmen to step in with fake solutions. It's something that really needs solving.

We are not quite ready for wallet support yet however when I’ve onboarded people in the past I recommend the Primal wallet. I’ve had more than one person tell me it was easier than downloading Nos via TwstFlight.

I've been here a few weeks now. I'm using Amethyst. The only trouble that I've had is connecting my node. My connection through tor is severed, so I've got to do it from my home network, and I plan on using Alby Hub.

I would say I had a smooth onboarding with Plebstr (now Openvibe) well over a year ago. Took me a bit of time to find accounts to follow, and then it wasn't a problem. Now though, I have no idea how the login process to new apps work since I kinda did it early on. I would prob use my nsec to login, but I believe that is not the recomended way to do it anymore. I am unsure how the new ways are safe/better. And how it can keep my login info secure. Unsure if this is helpful to you guys.

We need machine translations on all clients. I see that many Spanish speakers have to write in English to really encourage interaction. I am one of them. If it's not automatic, at least, it has to be easy. The native languages I see the most here... English, Spanish, Chinese, Portuguese, it wouldn't be bad to start with those. Necesitamos traducciones automáticas en todos los clientes. Veo que muchos hispanohablantes tienen que escribir en inglés para realmente favorecer la interacción. Yo soy uno de ellos. Si no es automático, al menos, tiene que ser fácil. Los idiomas nativos que mas veo aquí.. Son Ingles, Español, Chino, portugués, no estaría mal comenzar por esos. nostr:nprofile1qqs8d3c64cayj8canmky0jap0c3fekjpzwsthdhx4cthd4my8c5u47spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qz9rhwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjmcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wvh8xmmrd9skchd02dz nostr:nprofile1qqsfln36agetx43hsw8mgkm4hce9j46zu94m8er59nyzhv74p7gg0espr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt4w35ku7thv9kxcet59e3k7mgpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0ds5gw75l nostr:nevent1qqsv9z8xce0dy93c2y3hkmzvjt7f7tstjz3l9y099l2w9rq0j78g49spzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtczyz0uuwh2x2e4vdur3769kad7xfv4wshpdwe7gapveq4m84g0jzr7vqcyqqqqqqgwgsmj3