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 @369f21f8 btw, the main developers of systemd has wrote pulseaudio too, and he is working in Microsoft (officially) 
 @680dad18 oh, you're talking about Lennart again. :blobcatsipsweats: 
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 @680dad18 I will think about that. 
There were good things about Debian 8 w/out systemD and with ALSA and a custom kernel, and still are.
At least you aren't forced to register to use pulseaudio. 
 @369f21f8 There are many ex-debian distros without systemd... but I am from the slackware root and I dont know them, search in distrowatch.com . Now, ALSA is good, but you can use pipewire, it has compatibility with pulseaudio and jack and outputs to ALSA