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 can't say we have it if you don't know how much and when 🤦‍♂️ 
 That conclusion does not follow. 
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 Yes, it does. To say we have it with it being warming, you are stating that you have a statistically valid trend, which means you have to have some idea of how much. 

 If you do not know where a climate and geographically connected event is occurring, then you cannot say that you know it is happening at all.

 
 I hope you're trolling bro, because you're doing a terrible job advocating for your views if you aren't.

Read the rest of this thread if you want to understand my viewpoint.