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 Honestly, dropping the ball on this one. You're sustaining a spam attack on Bitcoin this way, hurting its early adoption as money.

Bitcoiners are so trained against "censorship", they mistake everything for it. This can then be weaponized against them, by flooding the chain with spam and making it unusable for small users.

Do you consider nostr relays filtering token airdrop spam to be censorship? Because that's exactly the same thing. Relays have rules on what messages they relay, just like Bicoin nodes and miners already do. So Bitcoin is already "censoring" now. 

If nodes decide to filter certain tx, then those will no longer be valid tx on the network. This has been the case since day one for tx that are too big, double spends, wrong coinbase tx, etc.

Wake up Neo, Bitcoin has been "censoring" since day one... 
 a few dollars / adoption for betraying the uncensorable property....hmmm, I'll pass thanks. 
 Quit larping and read my message again. Bitcoin is already "censoring". Bitcoin already has rules that "censor" certain tx. 

Adding a spam filter is not the censorship you should fear, from the comfort of your cosy couch. Meanwhile people with less means that need Bitcoin more than you are priced out. 

That's the adoption I mean. Not the dollar signs you think about when you hear the word adoption. 
 Less insults, more thoughtful posts would do your prerogative more justice.  Cozy couch larpers are the only people who could think differently than you?

There is a gradient upon which the subjective perspective of censoring/filtering lies.  Pricing people out of the main-chain is just forcing people to 2nd layers for smaller amounts, as was always expected to happen all the way back to Hal Finney and Satoshi.  People should be able to put whatever they want on the chain if they are willing to pay for it.  It is the most secure, immutable database in the world.  

People can also decide they don't like some/most transaction and mine only KYC transactions.  This is their perogotive.  

Eventually, some of these people will take the next step of trying to hijack the network to normalize "filtering" for only tyrannical govt approved transactions.  This is the true threat to network access, not a few dollars for main-chain transactions.  Were you around in 2017?   
 Bitcoin was not designed to store arbitrary data, that is a plain and simple fact. Measures were taken to avoid spam of random data on the chain. However, if fees cannot sufficiently counter a spam attack, other actions might be required. If this situation continues for a year, you'll see opinions on this changing quite fast.

Are you comfortable explaining to people in need that they can no longer rely on Bitcoin as they should understand it's more important that degens can post butt jpegs on chain? That they're ignorant and should have anticipated this as Bitcoin is not only money but also a costly database for storing random data?

Spam filtering is a normal procedure in many technologies, it's dishonest to compare such a thing with government censorship. Everyone will know gov censorship when it happens.

If nostr relays would be filtering token airdrop spam, would you call that "censorship"? Because that's exactly the same thing. So I guess Nostr is not uncensorable? Please expand on this point.