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 @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @Hypnotize Feminists theyre also really huge from brief googling 
 @67975218 @Hypnotize Feminists you can get bench top models that aren't exactly huge, but they are probably going to cost at least $500 and probably over $1k for anything decent

yea just try a candle or somehow convince bf that it's not a big deal. set up a fireproof work area. maybe not a great idea on carpet. 
 @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @Hypnotize Feminists i can probaby get a torch eventually. i was thinking maybe the dremel versaflame looking at the local store. but idk i will take some time to think about it 
 @67975218 @Hypnotize Feminists that looks cool but also looks like you'll be buying proprietary gas cylinders. a plain old plumbing torch is a little bigger and cheaper and would probably work better for what you're doing 
 @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @Hypnotize Feminists this is literally the only other type of torch i can find on local websites, does this look right? most say culinary use. sry im clueless

https://niscii.xyz/files/9a16fcfe-23f8-4528-bbf8-8d124a7dee70 
 @67975218 @d3a4f43e @Hypnotize Feminists Not sure a creme brulee torch is gonna do the job. lol.  Maybe tho? 
 @542debdc @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @Hypnotize Feminists this one says good for soldering and creme brulee lol. im trying to find other types and failing 
 @67975218 @542debdc @Hypnotize Feminists ah cool.  you want something like this i think 
https://www.bernzomatic.com/Products/Hand-Torches
way bigger gas cylinder. those little butane cylinders are gona run out fast 
 @67975218 @Hypnotize Feminists @542debdc i would get this. like $20 https://www.bernzomatic.com/Products/Hand-Torches/Manual-Ignition/WK2201 
 @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @Hypnotize Feminists @542debdc legitimately cant find anything that looks like this here at least online. i'll ask around, ty 
 @67975218 @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @542debdc maybe most places won't want to ship pressurized cylinders? You can find them at any hardware store, they're rather ubiquitous. 
 @Hypnotize Feminists @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @542debdc no i mean the hardware stores have online fronts that just list their instore stock and i cant find a listing for anything like it at all. but i will ask when i go next 
 @542debdc @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @Hypnotize Feminists i mean if you can do it with a candle maybe lol 
 @67975218 @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @Hypnotize Feminists mobsters who run italian restaurants as fronts bulk order these and use them to torture people in basements 
 @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: @Hypnotize Feminists oh it says it can be refilled with any butane canister i think 
 @67975218 @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: btw sorry if I missed it but what are you making with tiny rings? 
 @Hypnotize Feminists @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: im currently learning to make chainmail. just working with aluminium right now but if i keep doing it and not just get bored of it i'd like to make it out of steel

https://files.niscii.xyz/obj/3131e7cf-f8cc-44a3-9d8b-8ab8813d9d93.webp 
 @67975218 @woodland creature :pleroma_fox_tan: that's incredible! I'd love to learn more about armor. Holland Anvil had an armorer's swage block for sale now so that's piqued my interest.