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 @a0b872c9 But even that argument won’t do anything. We had the same thing in my town. Roads parallel to the high street were cut to 20. Motorists got very noisy. Since then, Tories in that ward have done far better in LEs, while drivers claim things are now far more dangerous because, apparently, everyone now has to drive while looking at their dashboards. The whole thing is insane. 
 @683562c3 you don't think drivers can be made to care about killing more children? that's depressing... 
 @a0b872c9 I think it’s more that some drivers think themselves so amazing that they genuinely don’t believe THEY will ever be in that position. 

We have roads in town that went from 30 to 20 because they were rat runs. Certain drivers were fucking furious about this and said they could safely drive at 50+ (and should be able to). That’s the kind of person I’m talking about. 
 @683562c3 yes, I know the type.