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steepdawn974 | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 So the client  has an always-on VPN to RiseUp, when they communicate with the relay? Or does it work differently?

(I should read up on it again. It's been a while..)
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Cyph3rp9nk | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Exactly, the client creates a vpn connection to communicate with the relays.

We could say that the relays act as coordinators.
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steepdawn974 | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I wonder if it's not possible (and better) to use Keet/holepunch rooms powered by DHT as a more decentralized way for coordination, instead of Nostr relays.

I can't help but be wary that relay operator will be (forces to) censoring joinstr events , of pressured.