Show me the incentives and I’ll show you your cap table 

 What browser can we now use? 

 Use Firefox but fine tune it
https://github.com/yokoffing/Betterfox 

 Don’t use forks 
don’t use shit with no eyes on them or ones that will shit on your experience 
Use what gets most eyes on the code and fine tune it.
Use betterfox 

 Is it on mobile? 

 On Android but running FF beta
https://github.com/yokoffing/Betterfox/issues/240 

 Why not use a fork? 

 Couple of reasons
They’re fully dependent on the original software
They have a lot less eyes reviewing them
Often with 1 or couple of people
They may eventually fizzle out and end development 
It costs money and time not enough to go around  

 Yeah that's my problem with forks. They may not get security updates in a timely manner 

 I do like the NoScript extension for Firefox on my old Windows laptop however. 

 It's open source. GrapeneOS is based on AndroidOS without Google's tentacles. Tor Browser is a modified version of FireFox LibreWolf is anothet great privacy-first fork of FF. There's no need to bounce from FF forks. I haven't used their main browser as a daily driver for years. Maybe soon we will finally get GraphenOS Vanadium for desktop. It is by far the best browser for privacy and security on mobile. 

 Thank you. 

 Mull browser

https://gitlab.com/divested-mobile/mull-fenix 

 Chromium is ungoogled 

Vanadium on GrapheneOS


 

 i've been using mozilla for a few weeks now but i just hate mozilla

good call, time to go back to ol' chromium 

 lol, and fuck it, i'm building it from sauce 

 Now you're talking. But holy shit browsers are big complicated things. 

 I switched from Mozilla to Brave some time ago. 

 I tried Mullvad browser and I really, really wanted to make it my default browser but too many websites just wouldn’t work. 

 Same here. 

 Tracking and spying are the inescapable norm on the internet. 

 I use ungoogled chromium keep it simple.  

 Those builds are unmonitored and I've picked up ones with malware in it. So ungoogled chromium is a no for me. 

 Thanks for pointing it out.  

 Anything outside of regular Firefox will do, since they do a better job than what Mozilla does. Do not use ANY Chromium based browser under any circumstances, for you are COMPROMISED if you do. 

 What's the problem with chromium? 

 Ad-blocking with Chromium is neutered with Manifest V3, especially with uBlock Origin, which has a "Lite" version because of these filter rule requirements. 

 AdGuard Home for the win 

 What do you mean? 

 They will live long and build fortresses of freedom 

 Mozilla has been dying since they started receiving money from Googl$ a long time ago.

- They don't listen to user feedback

- They use telemetry to track users 

- They haven't been a privacy browser for a long time.  You have to use a nightly on mobile and remove the tracking stuff manually and even then... who knows.

I gave it up for lent long ago.

it would be nice to see a new browser come but I'm not holding my breath.  Until then, I am sticking with Cromite.
 

 they also don't have a setting to not be nagged to enable DRM for shit like spotify also, which annoys me intensely 

 Exactly. 

 No browsers is safe. 3 engines left, all primarily developed by big tech companies. It's mpossible to make a new browser because of the obscene complexity of the web, the creation of a new web browser would be comparable in effort to the Apollo program or the Manhattan project. https://drewdevault.com/2020/03/18/Reckless-limitless-scope.html

Replaceable Nostr events could replace most text-based websites.