I know I could do that, and that would be great for my personal setup. But I like to run the vanilla versions of popular wallets that I could actually recommend to someone to onboard them to bitcoin/lightning. So I know it’s just going to work. And I also know how *their* interactions with it could run into problems or hiccups. 

I had been using Phoenix as my main onboarding wallet for quite a while. The alternatives are fine for me, just because I’m used to using 80% alpha or beta level software and dealing with the pain (and fun) of it all. But I never try to get friends and family onto those tools until they feel as seamless and simple as Phoenix did. 

 Yeah, Seems Muun is the closest alternative. Google partner and lightning/onchain swap make it the easy wallet to use. I wish there was more invoice programmability, And fees get high sometimes, But I usually recommend Muun.