Oddbean new post about login | logout Yeah, discovering that certain relays don’t like my kinds.
Amethyst has a nice relay information page to let users know what kinds are supported.
YOUR KIND IS NOT WELCOME HERE
It's because they are statistically more likely to be involved in a crime
People without appendices are just bad people.
That's.... 🤣🤔😅😓😢😮
As a hybrid species, I can relate 🥹
Most of the Web isn't even a Kind. Imagine how they feel 😔 .
Those poor centralized bastards.
kinds of kinds getting smarter, I am nostr:note1xqmmr5vqmpw9nmzzhfrgj3x5yz33y08hmxy7604mw0p9nqamdqlq8m4m0u
thank u plan on staying for a while
Been there 🥲😂
No pole dancers allowed! 🥹
How do we experiment if new kinds aren't allowed? This is a problem nostr:nevent1qqszj5snme6mpyywekadu23u2a9384jxpd480qjf7cqh7qw8j48qa4spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsygqxk7qe6lcu0a28yyvzvmkhhj58shww4cy7xm4r5jhkvhrdrkpj0spsgqqqqqqsndzmc3
I think the solution here is to just run your own relay for experiments.
Yup. My relay accepts all kinds (for me at least).
Definitely. I do the same.
No, this is a legitimate problem. The nostr spec NIP-01 specifies the valid range of kind numbers. All kinds in that range should be accepted. If relays block kind numbers because they are not "known", it completely hampers innovation and keeps the network from growing. I'm curious which kinds are being rejected nostr:nprofile1qqsqddupn4l3cl65wggcyehd009g0pwuatsfudh28f90vewx68vrylqprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctvqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwd9kk7tnrv9eksqg5waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t0pqpyr2? How are kinds established as "known"? They get into a NIP. How are NIPs made? They start as a draft. How are drafts approved? BY IMPLEMENTING THE PROPOSED NIP. You can't implement something new unless it is accepted by the network. This is a circular dependency. This is why new kinds that are unknown must be accepted if they are valid as per NIP-01. Relays that exclude valid kind numbers are violating NIP-01! 📣 PASS IT ON https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/01.md#kinds
Fair points, but I also think that it's also a fair point to have a development relay that you can spin up and nuke as part of the development process. I don't like rate limiting and I think 5 per minute is nuts, since I do that many in 10 seconds when I'm just doing reactions, but I also understand the pain points of people running infrastructure.
Negative kind numbers are blocked from most relays. Many will block outside of the documented set. A few relays only allow specific kinds but at least they document that.
n...negative kind numbers? https://media1.tenor.com/m/dCspeNeobQkAAAAC/mcdm-lord-durok.gif
