v4v means no ceiling and no floor. You make something that is of value, I in return give value back. That value takes many countless forms, even giving my time to listen to something is an exchange of value. Over the past year or so value for value seems to have been equated as only streaming sats and that is not true. Value is sats, time, artworks, voicemails, sharing with a friend, hanging out in the chats, coding up useful scripts, spot checking rss feeds for errors, etc. If you suggest a minimum that's what people will give you. "My value is worth a cup of coffee"