Oddbean new post about login | logout @134318c2 I recently read the Tulsa Massacre article and it seemed to claim that basically the Blacks were to blame for it. It was very carefully written so as not to claim exactly that but let the reader reach this conclusion by him/herself. I don't know enough about this part of history to be able to pinpoint where exactly the article manipulates the truth, but I'm quite convinced that "the Blacks did it to themselves" is not exactly what one is supposed to learn from the Tulsa Massacre.
@c4d83080 Editing race related articles on the wikipedia is like going to war. You need at least 3 or 4 experienced (having a long history of good contributions) editors. You need to have recent good contributions ideally. So, go edit ant or math articles for a bit. Make corrections. Write a new article on another topic. Then you move in together to make the changes. There will be reversions, and eventually arbitration. Always be polite and calm. It's a lot of work. Should it be? No.
@134318c2 @c4d83080 Those sound like two topics that the central editors [citation needed] would lock or restrict. We shouldn't have to be fighting fascist and racist propagandists.
@fb39e5a2 @c4d83080 The arbitration people try but when I was there they were far from perfect. Opting for "both sides" solutions. For example look up "The Mankind Quarterly" you'll find it's a "scientific journal" but really a front for publishing racist science. I wanted it to excluded as a valid source. (so it couldn't be used as a citation to support neutral voice statements in articles) the ruling at the time was "no it's fine" That's what made me leave. I can't deal if that's a "source"
@134318c2 @fb39e5a2 @c4d83080 "Mankind Quarterly" sounds like a magazine about Whiskey, Fedoras, and Rugby (football is too low-class). They'd probably have pictures of shirtless men on the covers, which is TOTALLY STRAIGHT because they said "no homo" while they were publishing the magazine.
@134318c2 @c4d83080 The articles on immigration in Europe, same shit. Where in the US the articles go over descriptive statistics and the history of the major immigrant groups, here the articles list a litany of irrelevant social problems. The article on immigration to Sweden sees fit to mention Sweden's rape rate - which has been high for 25 years, since before most refugees came.