Oddbean

Agree COMPLETELY. We need simple tools so that INDIVIDUALS can make their own choices. Look at it this way--if all USERS simply block spam on their own by muting, then we will (over time) extinguish spam. The solution is to make better tools for INDIVIDUALS to use, and to not censor at a global (relay) level.

ok, but how am I ever supposed to mute the entire npub spam army? There seem to be many spam accounts and there seem to be more each day. Doesn’t client side “mute” seem kind of futile? Spammers can spam at scale, but how do I mute at scale?

Exactly my point--it's not easy--so we (users) need better tools from the developers to enable user moderation of content (i.e., change the channel) That's where development efforts shoudl be focused--enabling the USER to control (and choose) their own content, in and easy, simple, expedient way. And yes, censoring content at the relay level is much easier to implement--yet my concern is that it takes us in the wrong direction (i.e., centralization vs. decentralization). We're better than that--devs, please take up the challenge--Nostr is AMAZING--let's build the tools that will continue to inspire and yet stay true to the core reason Nostr exists--decentralized communication and freedom of speech!

gotcha, well I guess the challenge is doing that on the client. I don’t see how it’s possible yet. But nostr still works, we can all chill out and live with the spam while we discuss solutions. I hope devs don’t view spam as a failure and feel they have to rush in any fix

Agree--it won't be easy--but--if we *can* put content control in the hands of the users we'll have taken a GIANT LEAP forward with Nostr-- People ask "why not just use Twitter, or Mastodon or..." and "when will Nostr adoption reach a critical mass?" Well, user-controlled content is the "killer app" that will answer both questions...