Oddbean

There were a couple of mistakes made then: 1. You need a million people, not a hundred 2. You do not need to clash with them. In fact, you should not interract with them at all. In this case, just walk around them, avoid cameras, and go to clean the mud. If they stip a humdred of you, they stop; other 999900 will make it to cleaning the mud. The trick is not paying taxes, not using fiat currencies, not putting your entire savings in real estate and other arrestable assets "protected for you" by the gov, not reading emails, letters and other papers from the gov, whether from your boss in the gov, or police or judge or doctor or whoever in any way affiliated with the gov.

yeah I don't think there's actually a problem with volunteers, it's managing the volunteers whilst you have search and rescue operations underway. You can't stop people from helping, or sending supplies etc. Also, if the more untrained civilians are doing things in dangerous places where there is still active risk, then it become a problem. People need to understand this as well. Cleaning some mud isn't the same as rushing to a place to go see what you can do only to get in the way of trained professionals trying to save lives. It happens a lot.

You guys in Spain are generally very nice and kind people but you have a problem: You do not understand that everything you are and everything you have is thanks to one man by the name of Francisco Franco, who also made two grave mistakes. It is not thanks to your hippie, artist, progressive, engineer parents and grandparents. And definitelly not thanks to the West who "saved" you from Franco, and not thanks to USSR and russians and Masha And The Bear cartoon whom your parents and even you loved so much even just a few years ago. Most definitely not thanks to women. Franco provided safety, wisdom, morality and as a result prosperity to spanish people, who, as most spoiled children do, just played naughty and did not appreciate it. Franco's mistakes were two: 1. Treated the naughty children like still his children. He became soft. He must have sent the freedom loving hippies to their dreamland USA to live in "black and spanish communities" or another dreamland USSR to live in any place they desire. 2. Centralized too much of everything into himself, rewarded the undeserving spaniards with his own achievements, and failed to leave a leader stronger, smarter, better after he left. And so, spaniards during his rule lived like Hunter Biden in his youth, and the ones in their teens and 20s now, like Hunter now - a laughed at messed up shadow of his good looks from his spoiled youth.

Now when you say that, you just repeat what a soldier of Franco would have said: "general knows better". The problem is that the general is long dead. Your general is an idiot. Every individual including and especially volunteers must use their own brain now. If some take bad decisions and go under a falling rock, they die. It is their problem, it is their good intentions and their at least honorable deaths. Soldier's or firefighter's brain is no better than volunteer's. And your generals, experts, scientists, engineers, "experienced and specialised" idiots are useless if they are not gen. F. Franco who they obviously are not.

Volunteers don't need to be managed. It is simple: see a mess - clean it. Nothing more ridiculous than spaniards going for a walk in a special scientist designed "going for a walk" gear. 😂 You spanish guys are ridiculous with your specialization and scientism obsession.

Did they come to you and ask to be managed? If they did, did you manage them, or tell them to go home and that you will take care of everything because you are in a special "go for a walk gear"? Do you know better and that is exactly the reason Valencia is exactly where it still is?

go be a nuisance to the first responders then, if you're so adamant on getting involved in something you have little to no experience in. I mean, if you want to be a street sweeper and cleaner, why now? Why not two weeks ago? Or is it a hero complex? Or is it just drama? Most of what you say is just drama anyways "that you will take care of everything because you are in a special "go for a walk gear"?" as if PPE and equipment is "go for a walk gear"

I am so far away that it actually does not concern me. So honestly, personally me in this particular case, am just not letting a good tragedy to go to waste, just like Spanish and European governments on this same exact tragedy. The difference is, that in their case it does concern them.

I think I already know what you will answer to me next: EUs help is essential because they have better "go for a walk" gear, and Spanish gov and people would perish without their support. Volunteers should be managed therefore they should stay home because their gear was not reviewed by the corrupt scientists and firstresponders. I am just drama who probably also does not have an approved "go for a walk" gear. I mean, and you probably did not even get my joke or cry of despair about the "for a walk gear" 😂. What was that, can't remember something I wrote recently in another post about teaching to read, government, something 😂. Is this what you thought: "what's so funny, Spaniards indeed wear the best "go for a walk" gear because it best supports the joints and keeps the right body temperature (also good price/quality ratio) and saves X amount of eur for the healthcare system"? I am sorry, I am not usually so offensive, but time to time I need a scandal to draw attention of others. I am done trolling for today. Or this week, or this year.

Just ignore all my recent overchallenging posts delivered without loving kindness. This is the only one that matters: nostr:nevent1qqsps9h2s2yt3qemll0qsz0xfc3hfh5m5vjhrx5uzn8ftm9p0q307vspz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcpzqdrsakhr3uyapj327w6g8gp39hwh82sswhyfutnewaew85lcgq5kqvzqqqqqqygnzg3l

Are we clear on an elementary thing that no volunteer should go and start digging nobody's garden nor street nor moving and fixing cars just anyway he desires? Help means you go to a victim, ask what he needs, if he needs his car fixed, you do that, if he says he is happy with his mess, you go home. See how no special skills nor management of firstresponders and EU are required? Moreover, if Valencians are so at odds with their neighbours that they won't come to help, if they do not approve their skills and gear of helping, strangers from further away should not help either. If your closest ones don't want to help, maybe you do not deserve to be helped. DESERVING is the key word in everything always. Learn from Franco and stop making those mistakes of pampering the undeserving ones.

God damn all you socialist scientism idiots. Stop being idiots for once and see the obvious. nostr:nevent1qqs0y9qk4ayh33lhp5du0tvrj88f44w7tm2vdrak0erxyrkm2rcc06gpz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcpzqdrsakhr3uyapj327w6g8gp39hwh82sswhyfutnewaew85lcgq5kqvzqqqqqqy3pqvdu

If you don't know what to start from in terms of using your own head, start here: if you want to pee, go pee. If you don't - don't. There are no right scientist approved times nor quantities for peeing. nostr:nevent1qqs2hhve8dvh2g7ldmer76j7jruwjghxmlgdej0ls964fqj5ewtzs7spr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet5qgsrgu8d4cu0p8gv52hnkjp6qvfdm4e65yr4ez0zu7thwt3a87zq99srqsqqqqqpajeycj

And if you do not see how my recent messages are delivered with loving kindness, go take an HIV test. nostr:nevent1qqsxnvj9qme32nkr5amtq5nq3ax7kpxrp7064fvrs4hzevmrde8m0qcppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5pzqdrsakhr3uyapj327w6g8gp39hwh82sswhyfutnewaew85lcgq5kqvzqqqqqqyxwzlgz

Faggots who pay taxes are double fucked by the faggots who hate them: nostr:nevent1qqsfnflhx3gquarltptzutvsdmwwch340rlkpwm5g8ytveqh3rvzauqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzvupzqdrsakhr3uyapj327w6g8gp39hwh82sswhyfutnewaew85lcgq5kqvzqqqqqqyagpr48