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 Typical shitcoiner answer. Why go the path of enabling more scams instead of working on improving lightning or getting Ark ready for mass use? 
 #Lightning is a dead-end. I don’t know much about Ark. I’m not opposed to experimenting with different technical solutions as long as they don’t jeopardize the base chain which #drivechains don’t. The “drivechains enable shitcoins” argument is just irrational toxic #Bitcoin maxis talking point. Having drivechains on Bitcoin won’t degrade your experience with Bitcoin if you choose not to use them. If you can’t live with the idea that others may want to use a #drivechain then you think like a Bitcoin authoritarian. 
 That is the wonder of bitcoin. Feel free to fork now and run a chain that supports drivechains. I won't run it. We both get exactly what we asked for.

Trying to make me support drivechains is authoritarian. Simply stating clearly that I won't doesn't make any attempt to control anyone else.

I've spent enough time around shitcoiners to see how losing hurts them. I don't want to play any role in giving the people trying to hurt them any new angle or help. 
 I’m not forcing you to do/think anything. We’re just exchanging thoughts here. You’re free to participate in the exchange or not. #Drivechains don’t need a hard fork to be deployed, it can be deployed through a soft fork. You’re just confirming to me that the only argument against #drivechain is the non-consequential state, for those who don’t want to partake in it, of having other chains on #Bitcoin. 
 Also, LOL at lightning is a dead end from someone who doesn't even use it enough to set up zaps. 
 backward logic...why would they set up "zaps" if they don't like LN? 
 How do they know it doesn't work without using it? Those of us who use it every day tend to disagree about how well it works. 
 good for you.

perhaps you'll notice i am not using LN here either. i *could* take some time to tell you why, but i don't think it would be worth it. 
 I noticed, it cost you some free sats.

I know I'll never change your mind either. Here for onlookers who are on the fence to see the other side of the argument. 
 i'm not against changing my mind, but LN would have to work drastically differently than it does now.

i can't see that happening, but my disagreement is not with LN users. enjoy your zaps!