Oddbean

I agree it doesn’t. The loud voices are just bored and want to play with things, not understanding that with over $1 Trillion in the network people aren’t going to leave them to just “play” like they want. Bitcoin won’t move until these Devs change their tactics and stop pretending it’s 2013. They don’t even appear to know who their target audience is for changes, they just post platitudes about how it must.

There is a social contract with the user base, most of whom are using it as a store of value. Some might not like the SoV use case, but it happens to be dominant. OP_CAT combined with OP_DUP can exponentially increase the memory usage of all the nodes, up to a limit. As memory is more expensive than disk, it's a bit like a block size increase in terms of using resources. Question is whether the use cases justify the risk, and also the risk of a contentious chain split. I am sure many of bitcoin's enemies would stir the pot there. OP_CAT is already enabled on liquid and no one uses it. I think they should show the user base how amazing it is in demos, and if the users say, "wow", that is a better argument.

“Question is whether the use cases justify the risk, and also the risk of a contentious chain split.” No, that is not the question. These clowns don’t even know who they’re supposed to be persuading. They don’t know what these people would gain from their proposed changes. They don’t know what those people might risk (ie SoV as you identified). They in fact don’t know shit about fuck. They whinge like children about nice-to-haves whilst not being able to sell their way out of a wet paper bag. The question actually is “what do the people making this decision stand to gain from adopting this fork, and at what risk?” They’ve not articulated either the benefits to the decision makers, nor the possible downsides. That’s why they’re going nowhere, fast. It’s not 2013 where you’re selling your ideas to the whole network who run nodes and decide the rules. It’s 2024 where retirements and multibillion dollar businesses who use third party custody are on the line, not to mention the massive value the noderunners have in BTC. You can’t sell to an undefined customer and these Devs have no idea who the customer is for their nonsense. They are creating products for themselves that no-one else will want.

Then they are funded with 0.007% of the network - that’s nothing. Let them use every psyop in the book, these 🤡s are going nowhere. You don’t move consensus at $1.4 Trillion without a proper, planned, well executed sales & marketing strategy. There is no sales & marketing strategy behind these idiots; as I said, they don’t even know who they’re selling to. You can’t execute sales & marketing without defining your target audience and I bet you anything if you sat with one of these devs and asked who they want to communicate with they couldn’t articulate it. If the clowns start bringing in people who understand sales, marketing, PR, campaigning, data analysis, propaganda etc - then I might start worrying. As it is, they’re generals fighting the last war. I’m not going to interrupt my enemies making that mistake.