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 I’m looking to upgrade my node/personal server setup. Have had umbrel via raspi for a while but it’s really run its course.

Looking into umbrel home and start 9. Pros/cons of each system and thoughts?

Wish list is self-hosting bitcoin and lighting node, nostr relay(s), password manager, and that’s really about it in terms of needs 
 Start9 over umbrel, pricing/performance, documentation, support are all better.

I wouldn’t host a lightning node without ecc/raid features, but that’s just my personal experience in IT talking, it’s not a hard requirement. 

I also sell nodes that come with my time & I pitch #proxmox as the go to tool for self-hosting infrastructure, including non-bitcoin software. Nodes in bio. 
 I want a Start9 node too, but they are all sold out now, right? 
 https://store.start9.com/collections/servers/products/server-one

I don’t see an inventory count but both seem to let me add to cart & continue to checkout, so I assume it’s in stock. 
 Start9 > umbrel 
 It’s sooooo expensive though! 
 You don’t need the pure. Grab the refurbished desktop 
 You can just flash a used dell with a 1-2TB SSD and 8-16GB with Start9. You don't have to buy their hardware. 
 or a Thinkpad! I bought an old Thinkpad off eBay for $200 and it's been running Start9 perfectly for 18 months...  
 For sure. Personally I don’t mind spending the extra sats for start9 
 I'm more into wanting to a have a solid understanding of the bitcoin related software so the node in a box solutions are not attractive to me.

I self-host bitcoin core, sparrow, electrum, and etc but my lightning node is hosted on Oracle Cloud using their free-forever offering.

I've put some articles on https://yakihonne.com/ on how to start this journey.   I could put some more detailed articles out there, but my sense is most people don't have the skills or desire to take this journey. 
 @Start9 is not easy but you can run it free on an old computer. I bought one as I wanted to support the mission. Still working on all the features as a non programmer it’s difficult but not impossible. 
 i'm looking for a better Linux OS based solution on self hosted virtual hardware (VM) #asknostr