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 "People don't care." @jack on privacy and AML/KYC re: Twitter at #nostriga

What a fucking stupid argument. The market created Nostr for starters, used by people who do care. Equally _lots_ of people are failing to get blue checks for privacy reasons. 
 I didn't watch but probably what he means is: the large majority don't care. Which is absolutely true. 
 He was talking about the possibility of, eg, blue checks being purchasable via non-AML/KYC methods. In that context failing to provide options for an important minority is stupid.

It's as stupid as saying "Only a small minority of Twitter users have a lot of followers; there's no reason to make their experience good."

Obviously, the small minority who really need this stuff are often your most interesting users, who drive user interactions from the majority.

Snowden being a great example! Who Jack went on to point out had left Nostr due to bad privacy! 
 I get your point but this only matters for "influencer" type of social networks where niche power users need to be catered to.

I would argue that nostr is not that, it's more akin to early facebook with a more sparse graph. Or maybe that's only because it's still small ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
 He was defending Twitter's lack of privacy, which is 100% an influencer type of social network. 
 
i will not pay for Twitter ID until it’s legalized

i will not do it if Twitter is not a legal public good 

cared by the people for the people of the people 
 Twitter's business models ZUCK 
 suck* 
 legalized = standardized
BITCOIN PROTOCOL
BITCOIN STANDARD 
 AGI Bitcoin kills AML/KYC 
 BITCOIN is proof of HEALTH 
 if you are not a healthy person you cannot care. period 
 What did I miss? To those who did not attend the conference, we are keen to hear more context. Snowden left #nostr? What happened and what did your first post mean? Genuinely curious. Ty 
 true, this was focused on the masses. until they have to. i do think they care a lot more about privacy than censorship resistance. best to build these systems in parallel and be ready for masses to switch. but net new features and UI will get people to care first. 
 I second this! I have been advocating #nostr with my lil 8k following. But they are focused on convenience in exchange for censorship resistance and privacy! they know about the implications of privacy, they know what data are collected from them but it did not matter to them. Until their livelihood which is dependent from those app is taken away from or when their identity has been stolen. sadly, people only care when it affects them. Hence, I always focused on the problem that Nostr can solve than enumerating features; I always focus on the "why". 
On a different note, hypothetically, if people do switch now to Nostr- do we have the relay capacity to support it and the speed? genuinely curious #asknostr 🤔 
 in many countries WhatsApp is free
even if you don't have internet or data on your phone

why? surveillance? 
 who decides? companies or governments?
or both?… 
 most people are brute  
 What's the argument? 
Sounds like a fact 
 It's demonstrably wrong. Lots of users care. 
 I read a statement like that to mean [most] users don't care 
 It would be an argument (and wrong) if what he meant is that "because people don't care" (true for a vast majority of users), then we don't need to implement anonymity/privacy/anti-AML-KYC features. 
 Which features are we talking about? 

I'm a fan of privacy at the protocol level and then compromises for efficiency/user experience at the application level. 
 pain will push, my people care but it's a leaning curve & early