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 I’m finding Primal almost unusable this past week. Why are so many posts in my feed showing the raw note IDs instead of rendering the quoted note? Is this happening for anyone else on Primal? The quoted notes render fine in other clients. @primal @miljan 

Additionally having trouble tagging users in Primal. Posting this from Nostur because it just works. 


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 Same. I honestly forgot if they used to render these or not. 
 I've always had issues with Primal. Ameythst and Damus are the go to for mobile clients. Primal.net is fine for a web client. 
 Primal has been working great for me up until this past week. It frequently sits spinning/loading and then these other issues I mentioned. Have to force close and reopen frequently. Pretty frustrating.  
 Anytime someone tells me they are having trouble zapping me I ask which client, and the answer is always Primal. 
 yeah,I notice this too,the device should look into this 
 No issues with Primal for me 
 Android or iOS? 
 iOS 
 stopped using Primal last week 

using Nostur and Wherostr now 💐 
 I’m having this issue. It also wouldn’t update my feed for 48 hours over last weekend 
 😅😅 
 I had this happen to me a few weeks ago.  Honestly thought it was my network/VPN. 
 I thought it was just normal. 
 It’s like 20-30% of the quoted notes in my feed showing like this. I don’t remember having that issue before.  
 It’s probably closer to 5% in my feed. I should see if it’s the same on Damus. 
 Im new here so I thought it was normal too haha 
 Yes saw another person mention this 
 👋 
 It seemed to start happening around the same time as the reply guy spam, but I don’t know how/why that would affect quoted notes rendering. 🤷‍♂️ 
 Happening with my primal ios 
 I've gotten the same thing.  
 There is always so much lag with primal.  It looks nice, but it doesn’t load well. 
 That has been worse the past week or so too. I wonder if it’s all related to the reply guy spam bots? 🤷‍♂️ 
 Same for me 
 notprimal.lol is the way 
 If only it was a mobile app. @NotBiebs 👀 
 seems to be a relay problem 
 Use a laptop 😂 
 https://media.tenor.com/B6CVCqAeSywAAAAC/aw-heck-naw.gif
 
 This is how you use Nostr like a boss 😂 https://i.nostr.build/8dHvwjEr1QxVGVRU.jpg  
 Probably. One phone 📱 ain’t cutting the cheese 🧀  
 I have 2 phones 😂 
 This is the way. One day I’ll up my game. Maybe 🤔 probably not. Depends 🤣😂🙏🤪 
 One of my phones is a hella busted iPhone XR though 
 Basic works best … usually. 🤣🫡🙏 
 Funny thing I still use that as my main phone even though my pixel 6 is nicer 😂 
 Main* we are laughing 😆 

I’m basically this guy so whoever knows WTF 😳 I’ll do next. 🤣🫡🤪😆☮️

https://media.tenor.com/O4v4VltfZH4AAAAC/deadpool-dance.gif
 
 I’m also finding primal to be broken

I posted some Seedsigner news where I showed how I have ported the device over to a new microcontroller and got a development board manufactured. 

Either no one cares or… maybe primal?

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 Their relay sucks and SpAm P rEVenTiOn made it worse 
 Same problem here 
 yes on web 
 Same here 
 Same here on Android. 
 Same. 
 Yes it’s been getting worse 
 I keep seeing repeat posts while I scroll down on the Trending pages.  @primal 
 Nostur 🚶 
 Same for me, been wondering what that was 
 are you still having problems? 
 Yes 
 I see them now. been using a fork for awhile. 
 Mine has been fine, but I only use it first thing in the morning generally. 
 I've had these issues before. Not so much lately. Strange relay issue I guess. 
 Jump over to snort.social

Working good  
 Yes same here. It’s been that way for a while for me 
 Had them as well, seems sporadic 
 I’ve been having the same issue. 
 I thought it was like some kinda new way to post things and I missed the boat.   I see it half the time 
 Same here, for me its totally unstable now and i started using Damus. 
Tbh it lot of faster 
 Damus seems to work better for me. I encountered that issue as well though 
 It’s almost unusable and this point. 
 In recent days,  @primal has been running very slowly and is experiencing the issue of not displaying the cited notes. 
 Yes all of the above issues happening. I saw Miljan rely to a note the other day saying they were releasing an update soon. Hopefully will fix these bugs 🤞 
 same! 
 I’ve mentioned this under one of @primal posts. 
 No problems at all over here... 
 Same here 
 Same here. And Primal seams to only turn my iPhone into a molten brick of magma. I do like the “explore” tab on the web interface though. 
 It is 100% unusable for me. Won’t load anything. 
 That’s been working but buying sats has been failing.. again. 

@primal  FYI https://image.nostr.build/756a8b7b994fb8c9ee5b6cc2193ea1c4a88fdbf90bc5143385b9e080fd3518bb.jpg  
 Happening for me too 
 I’m finding Primal almost unusable this past week. Why are so many posts in my feed showing the raw note IDs instead of rendering the quoted note? Is this happening for anyone else on Primal? The quoted notes render fine in other clients. nostr:nprofile1qqs9xtvrphl7p8qnua0gk9zusft33lqjkqqr7cwkr6g8wusu0lle8jcpp3mhxue69uhkyunz9e5k7qg6waehxw309a3kzcmgv5ejuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtmkxyq32amnwvaz7tm9v3jkutnwdaehgu3wd3skueq4089x0 nostr:nprofile1qqsdv8emcke7k3qqaldwv956tstu40ejg663gdsaayuuujs6pknw7jspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqpzfmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2uc86mqq0 

Additionally having trouble tagging users in Primal. Posting this from Nostur because it just works. 


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 Same issues here. It was working when @jack  posted about it earlier last week but I’ve also been running into the same issues recently 
 The relay at relay.primal.net is also getting a lot of spam, removed them from my relay list and I don't think there is a paid replacement. 🤷‍♂️ 
 Same here. I’m back to Damus for the time being. Good to have both clients installed. 
 nostr:nprofile1qqsxfda5za00llhv8cfj48uazedc8hh6lzj3pz66uz7wh46uwv5z08qpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7ujd8nc 4 lyfe 
 can’t upload videos or many photos on Primal 
 I had the same issue. I started using @nostr.build to upload there and post links here. I hope this helps you as well. 

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 nostrudel is the only decently working nostr web client 
 Same here. 
 same issues here. 
 Newbie here noticed  the same a few times over the  past couple of days. can we send  from primal to cash app lightning address? Its not giving me option to put in amount to send out. 
 yes, we've been working on it. looking to deploy the fix soon.  
 Thanks sir 🫡 
 NtS (Note to Self) from the other day:

Once upon a time…
Iris would load on my phone  in remote places where there was no cell/internet coverage - it was magical. At the time I could barely figure out how to change my profile
Pic - I actually made a jpeg because I read somewhere that was how to do it..Haha. It was a fail. Then came Damus and zaps and then primal. I didn’t download the primal app or sign up with an email but enjoyed the limited interface via web. Today primal web client stopped working well …

#Nostr has grown and evolved, and it is positive and inspiring and wicked cool to witness, but I’m grateful I entered the protocol early  ….before it was  leveed. I prefer the vast unknown ocean as rough as it was at time. 

Bring back stuff that works when the internet and phone doesn’t ;) 

Make anomalies great again 
 Yeah, I also noticed the tagging issue on Primal's desktop 
 Works fine here 
 yes same! ...and wtf is replyguy? 
 I see many notes like this in Damus too. I figured it’s because the npub has me muted… if I click on them, sometimes I can read it, sometimes I cannot.  In other news, over on #damus , if I click on an emoji response to like or whatever, it will not transmit on many notes. I have to click on the text of said note, then my emoji response will almost always transmit.   I absolutely refuse to start tagging Will about it tho. My issue is does not signify, yours does. 
 Same happened to me.

But beside that, I have this simple question. When logging in the first time on a new platform, in my case I was first on amethyst and now I started with primal, it is very strange to enter my private key in a platform which I do not know/trust yet. In my opinion I should never be forced to trust any platform. The private key security is the most important thing of this whole cool nostr thing. There must be a more secure on boarding way than what I had to do, to inspect their GitHub code repository, for the average Joe this is impossible to verify. And in my case I was only able to do it for the web version and not for the Android app. So what are your comments on this @miljan or primal devs? Are there any plans for improving this. At least you  should mention that issue when people are on the page where they enter there private key. Are there any NIPS for the process of starting with an existing npub/nsec on a new platform? 
 Primal can be used with an extension on pc browser. Not sure but you can probably also use amber app on android. 
 Same here… 
 using primal, i'm seeing only 6 out of the currently 64 replies to this 
 Same has been happening for me. 
 I had lots of this starting with Primal in August.  Also unable to follow anyone on Primal.  I switched to ditto after trying a few other clients and everything seems to work on ditto.