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The: Daniel⚡️ | 11 months ago (raw) | export | reply | flag +11 
 Yo @ZEUS! In the wake of the WoS #Ruggening, how’s about a Black Friday sale on channel open fees so more plebs can PUT THE NODE IN THEIR PHONE?
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Mindaugas | 11 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Custodial wallet is a bank. Why do we call it a wallet?
Node on phone is not a node. Why do we call it node?
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ZEUS | 11 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 It is a node though…
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Mindaugas | 11 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 If I do not own the seed that those "my" channels are on, then it is not a normal lightning node. It is just a noKYC "custodial lightning wallet" with a gamification element of basic control of channels.
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The: Daniel⚡️ | 11 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 But you do own it.
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Mindaugas | 11 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Apologies if I mislead then. I installed Zeus and it looked like the node is ready for me to upload bitcoin and create channels. I did not go further, because it looked like I will not get the seed. Don't know if this could scare away others, too.
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ZEUS | 11 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 You can get the seed in settings at any time. You are not explicitly prompted to back it up until you have funds
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The Pentographer | 11 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 It's a big wallet conspiracy man!
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67b0a6d8 | 11 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 The fee is huge!
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67b0a6d8 | 11 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I opened channel today and fee was 40,000 sats + I bought another 168k sats which was not noticed.  The invoiced was more than the maximum trans so another 40k sats fee.