It's weird man. I don't seek them out, they just kinda knock on my awareness until I can't ignore them anymore. There are no coincidences & sometimes I find myself on a journey before I even realise. I'd pretty much walked away from permaculture when I went down the carnivore rabbit hole. I didn't have the time to build & manage a food forest. I also valued meat more & didn't value fruit & root vegetables enough to persist.