Yeah basically that’s what happens 

 I think the idea here is not about how many followers you have, but curating your feed based on your interest, and then exchanging V4V. Problem is, atm there are not a lot of people here, so it’s a little limiting, we need patience and time to grow. 

 My take is that social media is not the use case for #nostr. It will likely be something with media that has some social and economic aspects. 

 the experience for newbie's is that we'd rather get a reply than a zap. 

 Yep. I also prefer a response over a like. 

 exactly~!
maybe most people aren't looking for conversations..? 

 I think most people just want validation and attention, my dude. That's why having a vibrant IRL social life is of utmost importance! Social media definitely seems to have it's uses but they're very limited. 

 social media is great for finding people with similar interests, but it's difficult to do that here at the moment. 

 The accounts that have really high follower counts, have a lot of fake followers n e ways… 

 Yes, but they also have a lot of real ones. Just that the percentage fake is higher. 

 Gotta love the consequences of having the dead Internet theory play out in real time lol 

 Just a few weeks ago you said that people eagerly follow you. Now you complain that nostr is dead.

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 On Twitter I used the follow button like a like button. I immediately followed after reading a based post because it had no effect on my timeline. But on nostr I will see everything so I have to better vet my follows or it will ruin my experience. 

 I meant to link your reply to this post. 

 Yeah, feed went dead. 

 Went to 400 steadily and then basically slowed to a trickle and then stopped. 

 thank you for sharing, I appreciate it!  noticed a few problems myself 

 Isn't 400 plenty? 

 You're right. We should hard-cap follows at 400. Anything more is just being a greedy attention whore.

You first. Which of the 247 get the boot? 

 I'll dump you all when I get married lol  

 Any that post only about Bitcoin. 

 Those are the people happiest with the status quo.
In their view, the Nostr protocol is just a Bitcoin chat and we're all ruining the neighborhood.

They'd say, we should all be the ones to go. 🤔 

 Well, thats annoying. 

 Just a few weeks ago you said that people shouldn't use follow lists. You even nuked your follow list and used nip51 lists instead. 

Now you conplain about a metric based on these follow lists. 

 I think it depends on objectives

I'm not quite a newbie but I probably fit the profile of 'rando' account in that I'm not a public figure nor a Nostr / Bitcoin dev

I follow 395 ppl because I like who they are and I value what they post

Not for engagement farming

I have ~ 265 followers in return

I'm quite happy with that ratio, and the ratio of interactions to followers

It's better than it ever was on Xitter

And it's better than Bluesky so far

More importantly, when I interact with my social network it's not buried by some stupid engagement algorithm

That allows me to build meaningful social connections, which is my objective here

Quality not quantity

I post less original content than you do

If I followed 21 ppl that to me means there are 21 ppl whose thoughts I value quite highly

So I'd expect a level of engagement proportionate

If I was a public figure or if I posted engagement bait, particularly oriented toward the dominant topics of the network, I wouldn't be surprised to get a much higher engagement ratio

But a lot of the engagement those ppl receive is low quality

I doubt public figures like Jack and Lyn actually want that kind of engagement

Bluesky is much worse for engagement, particularly for replies

I see devs both within and outside the Bluesky team get the same or less engagement as you do, with 2-5x the number of followers on a network with ~ 1,000x the number of users

The chat thing... that's what I'd expect I think. If ppl are using a platform designed for group chat they'll return to that. Nostr native chat options are getting better tho.

So what are your objectives and how do you aim to achieve them? I think building a 'large' number of followers for anyone who doesn't fall into the public figure / engagement farming categories is going to be difficult in a social network that is bootstrapping.