Oddbean

Not quite everyone, Rabble is very good. Will IMHO is one of the better ones, but he is certainly in the group that would rather throw stones, than look and learn, and make nostr better. It's sad that this toxic positivity has taken over so much developement to the extent where it's hard for nostr to improve. Bluesky did a lot of things well. Especially growth. They invested in infrastructure and it paid off big. They created a great UX with simple features that users wanted. Nostr does have a large investment 10s of millions from the foundations via jack. Its silly to say that nostr has to be 100x smaller than other protocols because reasons. Nonetheless there are some good projects in nostr outside of damus. Ditto and nos.social are two projects looking to learn and build bridges. Also chachi chat is great. I would target investment in the outward looking projects, rather than folks that want to mock projects that were smaller and grew 100x bigger.

Will was not around when we built nostr, he came to it quite late. I totally agree that his work on damus was, and continues to be instrumental. As I say he is one of the better ones. But the group think is around slagging off projects like blue sky and not trying to learn and make nostr better. Mocking other projects that have been way more successful is wrong. It should be rejected. Nostr needs to transform from an insular project to a collaborative one. It's the only way forward.

> mocking other projects that have been way more successful is wrong that's where we disagree. I will happily mock bad designs. should I give praise to facebook because of their excellent marketing? what? no, I will criticize nonsense and bs marketing, especially when the project is decentralized in name only.

From insular to collaborative could not be more true. I’m new here so respect is due. I am nontechnical so all I offer is architectural advice, but so far what I see is this has all the makings for the future of networking, including a billionaires favor and what is holding it backs is what holds back everyone, a failure to understand human motivations, the dynamics of the will to power, such is moloch in game theory and sexual selection, a social network not built for individuals but women. Bluesky will become the home for radical feminists and beta males. The exact opposite is true for X. @jack did what he could I. The days of twitter but that is over now and the landscape has changed. Microblogging will polarize into two dominant echo chambers and it will be very hard to pull users away from either after these two have fully matured into their bias enforcing market positions. Now is the time to onboard because the X exodus is happening. This requires an algorithm that selects for a new temperament of influence. You can’t look at social as a democracy of ideas anymore when you understand that democratic voting is itself inherently a flawed model. We are selecting for division using the voting model that is currently considered the arbiter of truth. Polarity is not truth. Polarity is disagreement on the nature of truth. Solving polarity means trending agreeable influencers. People are very similar to understanding when you realize that they are all interested in power and all interested in gene propagation. Radical authoritarian men and radical authoritarian women are imposing their will on agreeable people and this is the forcing function of all political division. They do it to virtue signal their ability to protect agreeable people from each other resulting in our inability to mate agreeable men with agreeable women because if they don’t their genes will not transmit into the future. Radical disagreeable men and women have destroyed the divorce rate, the birthrate and the evolution of our species to prolong their lines and it has to stop. I understand this a lot to take in much less fully grasp, but if you can, you are not prepared to fuck around in the realm of network architecture. This is a serious subject that piddly little features doesn’t solve.