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Andre 🇮🇹 | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 What are the alternative options?
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Freedom Tech | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +4 
 Session

SimpleX

Nextcloud Talk (self-hosted for family)

0xChat (Nostr)

Keychat (Nostr)
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AbstractEquilibrium | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Signal the Protocol is good, & these are good adaptations of it.

#SimpleX is what I recommend most typically among my circle.  The basic idea of "2 relays, 1 per side, instead of one signal dot com for both sides of the chat" is a really easy no-cost privacy-win concept to communicate to technotypicals 🙂
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whitenoir | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 Awesome I haven't heard of oxchat or nextcloud talk.. thanks for that.
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Hmmm | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 How does 0xchat call privacy compare to the others? Guessing its routed through their servers
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water783 | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 You can go to settings and use your own ICE servers
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Freedom Tech | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Not sure on the details. 0xChat has written about it.
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Raymon | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Meet at a bar and do real life talk 😁 - or be a programmer.
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AbstractEquilibrium | 2 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Same problem.  You'd need a foolproof disguise to get to the bar undetected, but you can only rent your disguise from the very same folks you're trying to hide from!