There's a distinction that people miss with soy: Traditional soy use from soy beans grown without pesticides like glyphosphate are nearly always fermented or processed to make them more healthful. Soy bean oil used to facilitate food processing is drenched in glyphosphate, and the strains used for soy bean oil production are heavily modified to produce more oil, and there is no fermentation going on to break down the plant estrogens that can and do cause femininization and mess with female fertility.