Wut? 

1. They are just sharing about the V4V economy, and specifically sharing and promoting wavlake, which they have even made available in their own app for people. Fountain and Wavlake are absolutely the two biggest from my experience.

2. I get a ton of sats from Fountain. I just emptied 1,5 million sats into the BC recovery Fund which was a couple of months worth of streams and boosts just for my podcast.

3. Fountain didn’t write the article, it was included by the author and the musicians as specific examples.

4. KYC custodians are a LEGAL problem, you think they *want* to have to KYC people for a few hundred bucks of sats? Are you mad that they won’t invest thousands of hours and enormous amounts of resources into a platform and then risk it all by breaking the law (a shitty law or not)?

5. How did they copy wavlake? Fountain launched before them if I remember correctly, and what did they copy, adding Nostr? So nobody can add Nostr without it being a negative that they “copied” someone. But then you also complain about closed source, you realize open source is specifically so that people can *copy* others right? How on one hand can you demand people be allowed to copy, but then attack people for it, and in a situation that doesn’t even seem applicable? Did Damus copy Amethyst? Did Primal copy Nostur? Did Nostr copy Lightning? Seriously do you think that a vague idea like being able to zap people should be owned and controlled by a single entity? 

6. Why on earth would this piss you off? How could you read great news and then twist this into being angry at Fountain just for talking about it?

Don’t know if you are having a bad day or what, but cheer up man. How you found a way to attack somebody here seems crazy to me. I hope you figure out whatever it is that’s causing you to be angry for no reason. 

 If I say “between me and Donald trump we have over a billion dollars” that doesn’t strike you as a bit dishonest? I applaud the Wavlake team and I suspect at least 90% of the volume is due to them. 

Fountain copied them by adding music to the mix. Not really debatable . Zooming out of the KYC discussion: Being closed source is a pretty big red flag. It speaks more to the founder’s mentality and feeds more into the point above. I have other data points from people around me about the founder of Fountain’s integrity so maybe be a bit more cautious in your advocacy for them Guy. 

I love you guy but be honest did you Angel invest in Fountain or something? I’ll be able to find out the truth either way but transparency helps.  

 No I didn’t, and to suggest I’m being dishonest because I’ve invested in them is a pretty shitty move man.

You do your thing, but I’m out of this conversation. It’s just a good app. 

 Guy that type of motivated reasoning is all over the place in bitcoin podcasting. You even do shows with people that do stuff like that . You’re not responsible for their actions but don’t act like that’s such a crazy concept to question people’s support of certain projects. Half the podcasts these days exist only to promote VC projects.

To be clear I don’t really think it’s pure dishonesty, it’s usually just sunk costs and motivated reasoning. 

I suspected you would never do something like that but I had to ask since you wrote me a seven paragraph thing about an app that’s pretty mediocre by a founder I don’t respect. Agree to disagree. Sorry I pissed you off it sincerely wasn’t my intention. I hope you have a great weekend praying for you 🙏