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Thoreau | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +6 
 Eh, social media got huge without ever paying content creators 

I think our much bigger problem is we expect people to know about relays and Bitcoin to use clients that can't even find notes properly 

We are so horny to push Bitcoin adoption and freedom tech we've completely missed the plot on building a great product people love

Instead of making iPhones we're making a bunch of Linux phones nobody wants
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Svetski | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +3 
 1000000000%
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corndalorian | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Social media got huge because it served the interests of advertisers and publicly traded companies who figured out they could monetize user info. Nostr has the opportunity to allow creators/artists to directly connect with their audiences and monetize the fruits of their craft without middlemen gouging them for half of their profits.
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Thoreau | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 That is completely incorrect, Facebook got massive because university students wanted an easy way to share pictures and tag friends, they had tens of millions of users before they even thought of the advertising model. People didn't use Facebook to look at ads, it was because of the product was good.

I can't even see 20% of the replies to your note because they aren't in my relay list, we can't even do the basics
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corndalorian | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 The reasons people used facebook and the reasons Facebook got massive are not the same topic. Facebook absolutely started finding ways to monetize localized user data early on, and its growth potential combined with the potential to monetize that localized data is one of the reasons investors saw value in the company. Nostr’s design allows it to not be captured by those same corporate/advertiser interests. That should be an exciting prospect, unless your only goal is to argue with me.
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Thoreau | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 My goal is to try to get Bitcoiners to stop with their echo chamber nonsense and ACTUALLY make nostr work for the masses. I am bought in I have my own relay and zap node, contributions to NIPs and clients. But there is a reason why we're not growing and it's not because a lack of zaps. Or because people don't understand freedom. 

It's because the UX is trash, it's too complicated, there are no easily accessible discovery algorithms and it's just a bunch of us autists stackers circle jerking ourselves and posting the same mantras over and over again 

You know what would increase zaps the most? Actually having more people here. Not circulating the same sats between the handful of bitcoiners already here.
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INACTIVE ACCOUNT | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 The general public wasn't paying, but a LOT of platforms started paying pretty early...Instagram is the first that comes to mind, but if you call Youtube social media too, they've been paying even longer.🤷‍♂️

Money needs to be made for it to thrive, I feel. Which is why Fediverse is struggling to gain steam right now as well, despite it seemingly growing in popularity, the MAU are going down month by month. Monetization is a big deal.