@25b1da2f Fair enough. With respect to the Qualcomm trash talk, given that he's trashing engineers for being terrible for not hitting Apple-like perf, I would consider the trash talk to be backed up if Discourse had an implementation that was within a factor of two of what an all-time-great performance team could do, which isn't even close to the case.

I've tried using forums that use Discourse after that 2016 blog post and still find search to be unusably slow with annoyingly slow loading. 

 @ed709062 5X improvement near the top of the stack doesn’t feel like something to sneeze at outright, and your line is fair given the gauntlet thrown, and I don’t envy any of the engineers who had to actually cash the checks. 

 @25b1da2f As someone who's worked for Twitter, I'm familiar with having a leader who writes checks the company can't cash. I'm not exactly a fan of that, but one thing that I liked about Twitter was that it had a culture where people felt comfortable publicly calling Jack out on bad comments, e.g., if Jack made a comment like the ones from Jeff or Sam that I've quoted, I'd expect @85f21341 and others to publicly call him out on that and for Jack to take it well (at least while he was still CEO).