Oh speaking of... I've got another node that I can't access. Umbrel won't start because I can't get it to sync. All the channels have been closed except one according to amboss. I know I can recover onchain funds w seed but what to do abt the lightning channel? How do I force it to close so the funds return onchain, it without being able to access the node? Let's assume the channel partner is also mia...? 

 See this: https://docs.lightning.engineering/lightning-network-tools/lnd/disaster-recovery

 

 Thanks! Sounds like invoking scb is the way to go for me. I meant to wipe that drive and start over with start9 anyways 

 you are still dealing with this node?! sorry to hear. 🫂  

 you are still dealing with this node?! sorry to hear. 🫂  

 Yeah... it's ok. By "dealing with it" it's more like 99% given up on it and have been simply ignoring it and my problems lol 

 What happens if you sync a new node and tried to recover with the seed?