Oddbean new post about login | logout Generated art is garbage. It’s not art. It’s fun, my pfp is generated but it’s not art. There are a million generated gallery websites and nobody cares about them.
I used generated art to put together pose references or get ideas for art commissions. But I would always rather commission an actual artist to do the real deed. They know what they're doing. A GPU...does not.
art has not been worth what artists charged for it, now it's even more clear that art for arts sake is a drain on the global economy
It’s amazing how quickly Ai generated images became old and largely uninteresting. You can still produce really cool and fascinating images, but it takes a *Lot* of exploration and prompting to get there, but I’ve always thought the real secret of the tool is in using it to piece together a more complex artwork and composite something with an explicit vision. Not merely typing a prompt and taking the output. The amount of work the “creator” puts into it will also be reflected in how they treat it. You can still just see the proof of work somehow. 😆🤔
tried when midjourney was new-ish but not since... goal was to create an artful process flow diagram with the tool. it did not look good at all. suggestions, Guy?
Unfortunately you can’t do it entirely with MidJourney. Their tools is very “one size fits all.” We do use MidJourney a lot for individual elements, but everything we do is put together in photoshop, upscale with Magnific, and a lot is manually drawn and then used as ControlNet input in Auto1111. Using this you can outline a picture, put in individual elements, create a background or setting, composite them together, use that to generate a “first draft” image, then pull a ton of creative detail out of it with something like Magnific. It’s also just stupid fun to play around with it all. Ai is also great for just general ideation, but using the basic output is always going to just feel weak. The only times I use the standard is when it’s done simply to create stock images for a video, it helps reinforce an explanation or to paint a picture, so it’s less about the art than it is the image itself.
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Can a human create art with the assistance of a computer?
They do all the time
Then you're contributing yourself. The Truth is there is almost no real art left in the world now. Art is very hard to define but a good song, a pretty painting, and AI generated images, are not art.
Definitely a philosophical discussion to be had here
There certainly is. It's one of my favorite and most deep discussions that most people disagree with me on at first. I've had very many discussions with my closet friends over the years on the question of what IS art. I believe the human element is necessary but it certainly DOESN'T mean that anything a human makes is art. Computers are just another tool in the toolchest of an artist. Art also can't be subjective. Art has to mean something. Art is something very different from an Artist or "the arts". True art is timeless. True Art transcends time to reveal Truth and Beauty. We can talk more about it later perhaps, but food for thought 🤔
