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Pepe_NOSTRos | 7 months ago (raw) | export | reply | flag 
 A friend in NZ is asking about NZ btc on ramps preferrably with no kyc cooties. figured i'd ask here first.

hope you can help thanks

#asknostr
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The Beave | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Ugh. It's really hard. Mining is the first thing that comes to mind, but it's not fast and requires often significant learning to do effectively. 

I don't know enough specifics about the BS the NZ is putting their citizens through, but... You can buy KYC BTC and then make it disappear. If might not be "legal" but, as far as I'm concerned, those laws are repugnant and should be ignored.
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YunusAtSea⚡️🌊 | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Do you have a link for an instructional on how to de-KYC some sats? I know someone with an old, compromised HODL who might like it cleaned 😆
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The Beave | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Look up coin mixing and creating a cold storage wallet.
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YunusAtSea⚡️🌊 | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I was under the impression coinjoining somehow didn't fully absolve you from the coins? Am I mistaken, is it a clean slate?
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The Beave | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 It can, if you mix them enough. It requires time and consequently it requires more cost to do so.
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YunusAtSea⚡️🌊 | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Thanks
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The Beave | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 You're welcome.
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Pepe_NOSTRos | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Not ideal Lol but an option
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The Beave | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yup. Exactly.
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Lucid | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Step 1 get guns
Step 2 robosats
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BrothersofWisdom | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Don’t know if it will be friendly in NZ but it works in the US. Try robosats.com

I’ve used it to buy BTC several times no KYC. It’s been safe and effective for me.
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Pepe_NOSTRos | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 you had me until "safe and effective" haha
jk. have already passed it along as best option so far
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cryptowolf | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 https://bisq.network/ = similar but on-chain
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Pepe_NOSTRos | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I am currently smoking a Joint but will install and play as soon as the vision is less blurry.
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cryptowolf | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 The nice thing about bisq is it lets you connect to your own node 😉 Just dont go with version 2, still beta.
Stick with Bisq 1, more lidquidity too.
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Pepe_NOSTRos | 7 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 nice. . . still blurry tho hehe