Most of the clients you mentioned integrate directly with nostr.build, which is why they can't upload. Media file hosting in Nostr is also expensive, I recommend cdn.satellite.earth (satellite.earth), the pay as you go is better to start, so it's still not free. Maybe YouTube is also an option. 

 We see a lot of satellite links. Seems like Odell is posting from there a lot now. But the hosting is a pay as you go? 

 Yes, $0.05/GB/month. 

 That isn’t bad. Thanks! 

 Are you capable of self-hosting your media? Maybe fall back to S3 for bulk storage and serving? 

 Will try and figure out how to self host video. Seems like the move. 

 LMK if you need any help on this. I'm sure there are others that can better support you, but feel free to save my npub and tag me.  

 Thank you. We have a DiY start9 so hopefully there is way to use that? 

 Haven't played with start9 setups. But anything Linux based you can run containers on safely you should be good! 

 Check some of these projects out, there are a couple I recommend. I'm working on a backburner tool myself, but its for all kind of media - blogs, file hosting, podcast episodes + rss feeds. It's not production ready yet though. 

https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted?tab=readme-ov-file#file-transfer---single-click--drag-n-drop-upload 

 Thanks 

 Ditto 

 Cool! 

 The idea is that nostr is always "pay to play".

I just listened to an older podcast by @PABLOF7z where I think most of us builders agree. The software, in my opinion, will always be freely available (source code that is) but you will often have to pay for services. 

Most of us are just supporting nostr in our off time with spare hardware we pay out of pocket to run. Others run small businesses (like nostr.build) and need funds in order to operate. I'm pretty sure few, if any businesses are paying themselves a salary.  

 its worth getting the nostr.build paid account 

 You definitely get what you pay for lol. Right now that’s nothing. 

 Technically it’s not ‘nothing’, it’s images gifs and video <7MB, profile pics /formatting, image link importing, removal of tracking metadata, no ads, global CDN, no manipulation, 24/7 global support, Free View of recent media uploads! 
You should see what our accounts have to offer 🤣🤣 

 We appreciate what you do, just got  to figure out how to make this work. 

 Is nostr pay to play for content creators just starting out? 

Nostr is self hosted or pay. There is no real free infrastructure yet, although I wonder if ZBD has that kind of hosting capabilities.

What is the expected roi on paying to upload to incentivize that? 

Your content probably wont make much. There are a few documentary producers here @MaxDeMarco one who has had beautiful content but its not breaking even. I don’t think @joenakamoto is having a different experience.

But this is real early, we are still figuring it out as we go along. 

 Have you tried uploading video to zapstream? We tried yesterday and it seemed like it just disappeared into the void. 

I guess self hosting video is the move? @Start9 can we host our own videos? What would be the best way to do that? 

 https://catbox.moe
https://pomf.lain.la
https://x0.at
https://chainsafe.io 

 Okay friends, to click a link or not, this is the question 😂 

 Free infrastructure comes with strings attached, which is the corporate social media model. Is a @nostr.build paid account not an option for you? 

 Well this post about nostr has gotten the nearly the most attention over any of our high quality photos of our beautiful shops. We have been plugging away at posting here for a long time. Just trying to figure out if video is even a viable option. It is hard to pay for something that doesn’t generate any response, customers or revenue. 

 I recommend using Handbrake to compress video <7MB for free uploads. If you have longer videos, and would like to manage your own media, you can get an account for as low as 69k sats /year ($3.90 /month). We are integrated with almost all clients accept Primal. 

 $4 bucks a month isn’t bad, just also want to make sure that it works with the clients. Thanks for the reference to Handbrake. 

 i think that such video upload services that charge less would have to probably delete videos pretty fast to contain costs

if you are at the ground floor just use a web2 "free" service

streaming large amounts of data at thousands of users is very expensive, it's not something a team of even 5 or 10 people are going to throw out in under 5 years of spin-up 

 We would be happy to host our own videos. Is that possible from our basic shopify website blog? 

 no, but you can do that pretty cheap from youtube, that's fine i think? 

 But won’t the youtube video be a link instead of playing in client? 

 most clients already turn them into previews, even spotify, which annoys me because spotify requires DRM 

 only video hosting companies with infinity money to spend on storage and bandwidth can afford to do this "free" stuff and the ones that do freemium tend to be people who have got ample experience in watching the inputs and outputs of such businesses and so they know how to keep the books balanced without having infinity VC money

that infinity VC money is coming out of your taxes and costing you in inflation, because it's either government grants or banks issuing humongous risky loans

so, please, have some consciousness of what you are asking for, from an embryonic, crowdsourced social network, that is barely even working as a text message system let alone the one or three media hosting enterprises that exist 

 there is no free lunch 

 if you have requirements that exceed the ones available with the current infr infrastructure, either build a better infrastructure or pay someone to do it