Oddbean new post about login | logout I've just witnessed an https connection successfully established via nostr. if you know, you know what this would mean 🤯🤯🌐🤯🤯
yes the entire TLS dance was working, my mind is blown
"DNS" in da relay?
Next comes websites hosted on Blossom with nostr as a discovery layer: https://github.com/lez/nsite
I thought blossom was dead? No?
Why would it be dead? Seems useful to me...
I have no idea what this means but i want it to mean that nostr and relays could ostensibly become the new internet and ISPs can GFT. Is that what it means?
No, lol.
Not a techie and I don't know what any of this means either but I feel a tickle down below too. But ISPs provide the physical infrastructure for the servers and clients to connect, so regardless of the protocol, I don't think there's a way around them. You can do as much magic as you want with your software -- it still needs to be transported. Plus (this may be outdate because I learnt it like 20 years ago), there are several layers of ISPs. The local one you're buying access from buys it from a regional one maintaining your state/national network, who in turn buys international connectivity from the Backbone ISPs who lay and keep the submarine cables connecting continents and countries.
It sounds like NOSTR can be used as a transport protocol. ISPs that provide physical infra and IP routing can't be replaced by this.
Nostr works on HTTPS already. You could generate a shared secret already, but why would you want to? And what will you do with the shared secret after that? https://tlseminar.github.io/first-few-milliseconds/
other way round. https on nostr.
👁️⚡👁️ I think there's some confusion. Nostr is already establishes connections with HTTPS every time you use a relay. Are you saying you used Nostr as a transport layer for HTTPS? Interesting concept! Can you share more details on how and why this was done?
yes, that's what I meant. I'm not the dev of this btw, my skills aren't sufficient for this kind of black magic. the tool consists of two pieces of software, and entry node and an exit node. the entry node runs locally or can be hosted by many third parties. the entry node offers a socks proxy over which TLS is established with the web service. the exit node is run by the web service. it all works similar to Tor. you'll be able to visit Google via nostr. you'll be able to connect to cashu mints. the traffic will be encrypted which means the entry and exit nodes won't be able to see it. it's going to be so sick.
forgot to mention: the entry node talks to the exit node via nostr
Sorry but how is this different from Tor? Relay operators will become like Tor nodes operators and the increased traffic will clog up the network just like it's clogging up Tor. Then who would want to run a relay for free? Only three letter agencies -- like on Tor. I think nostr should stick to its original purpose.
Seems like unlike Tor, Relays are easy to monetize. Not running them for free = the feature.
"How is this different from Tor" sounds exactly like something I'd like to have. I will run such a relay for Cashu.
It is very different from Tor.
That's clever! Could you share who built this? They deserve a lot of sats for this
i built a thing a bit like this a while back https://github.com/indra-labs/indra but i only finished doing the layered cryptography and wrote simulations of relay transport and micro accounts, didn't get to plugging in the LN side and felt that libp2p was going to let us down as regards to scalability
Can you explain it?
Tell me more
So... you're saying there's a chance.
Node masuk menawarkan proxy, node keluar layanan web Mirip seperti TOR . . . "Anda akan dapat mengunjungi Google melalui #Nostr" . . . nostr:note13u7lkl0z2vqphk8wj4qzra765hzdfagj3aylcravy28hqxamg2xq2jzcps
Now we need to find a Great way to monetize relays bootstrapping and games change
huge
It's happening nostr:nevent1qqsg700m0h39xqqmmrhf2spp7ld2t3x575fg7j0up7kz9rmsrwa59rqpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qgs9pk20ctv9srrg9vr354p03v0rrgsqkpggh2u45va77zz4mu5p6ccrqsqqqqqpfwuzyf
Nostr jumps into the internet like Neo jumped into agent Smith in the first Matrix movie.
No moar battery draining and computer overheating due to constant sockets, yes? nostr:note13u7lkl0z2vqphk8wj4qzra765hzdfagj3aylcravy28hqxamg2xq2jzcps
