Oddbean new post about login | logout They can go after VPN service providers but they can't go after the Tor protocol. Protocols > Platforms
they can and did in the past
How can you ban open source code that is widely available?
one by one how else
The code can be reproduced and run by anyone and everyone. They can't take everyone down.
nostr makes it easy using nostrudel, you can see everyone's relay countries can block them quickly as they did twitter
Relay lists are public irrespective of the client you use. Besides, Tor was the subject of this conversation. If you're a bureaucrat, how do you go about blocking a relay that people connect to over Tor?
denial of service attacks and what they did to find out the origins of The Silk Road. There is always a way countries can easily shut down tor if they wanted to. the I P's are on their website and csn ip block
Yeah in that case, one needs to be censorship-resistant on an ISP level. Tor does have its weaknesses, true. The point of OP is that there is no entity to go after whose arrest leads to the service itself becoming unusable, as is the case with VPN's.
what happened to the Silk Road ?
It was a platform
thay was on tor amd taken down anything can get taken down
But Tor wasn't. That's my point.
so? tor makrs it super easy to block, they publish all of the ips and websites use that list to block tor now
How? Whose IP's are being published, who publishes them and where? I can't respond without these details.
Tor publishes all of their ip addresses on their website. go there
They publish a list of exit nodes yes. Even if they don't, it can be determined whether a particular node is an exit node on Tor. Information which can be used to selectively block access to those connected to Tor. That way, you are correct. Still better than a VPN because there is no entity to go after, since the code for the protocol is open source. The weakness you mention exists by design and can only be addressed by being censorship-resistant on an ISP level.
but they do publish them by design which think is dumb the reality is nothing is safe and perfect they probably can ip scan the tor network too the hard way
Fair. I've been looking for things that can enable censorship-resistance at the internet connection level though. Only thing I have come across is mesh networks. Do you know of any?
That's certainly what they claim, but running a not insignificant portion of tor exit nodes probably helped the USG more than the poor opsec claimed by a multitude of msm articles. In fact, if it was poor opsec I would expect the govt to not shout so loudly about it.