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 We used to get the ökokiste, but we have so much produce from Oma and the neighbors, that it became less interesting. 
 can't even get delivery here in madeira, it was so weird after living in UK and on the continent

still, riding 10km round trip to pick stuff up 2-3 times a week isn't that onerous, i just wish there was some decent beef

i still have a heap of goat chops in the freezer, probably starting to get too old by now though, but i really don't like the 9 month old, still too stringy and pink for my taste 
 We’re thinking of moving to Madeira (WW3 and all that stuff).

Been to Funchal several times, but not ventured outside of that area. Where would you recommend we look? 
 on the island? it's hard to say... I think the northeast region is the nicest, out past seixal and towards calheta in the higher altitude parts around there... most of the high altitude areas of this island are declared reserves, here in Sao Vicente, for example, there is basically no residences above about 500m above sea level

in the case of disaster, the north side is where you want to be because it is naturally high rainfall and a lot of water, whereas if there is disaster, it will hurt the densest populated areas, which is ribeira brava/camara dos lobos/funchal and caniso, roughly speaking, where probably more than 2/3 of the population is located, and is entirely dependent on the levadas that bring water from the northern side and the big wilderness areas of the two main peaks of the island, east and west (the tallest one is 1.8km)

honestly, i don't think it's the greatest place for natural disaster but for simple WW3 and other similar nazi germany style situation anywhere here is probably great 
 i meant... northwest... from calheta around to seixal/porto moniz, it's highest altitude, best weather overall, but still god rain 
 Thanks, very useful information. Apologies @Laeserin for my learned frens references to historical events involving your nation. 
 😅  
 Don't mention the war. 
 Not even the current one? 
 It's a universal rule. 😀  
 OK, understood 🫡 
 Just googled:

https://www.oekokiste.de/

Like it

Also googled Oma, thought it was another shop at first. It’s your grandmother 👵 ❤️

Thanks for sharing and expanding my knowledge 😄 
 It's my kids' grandmother, actually. We call her "Oma" to differentiate her from "Grandma" in the States. Which gets confusing when we're over there because my sister does it the other way around. 
 In the UK, we often use “Nan” as a familiar name for grandmother.

I have very fond memories of my maternal nan. Sadly she died when I was 8 (a long time ago) 
 Oma and Opa are the german and dutch words for grandmother and grandfather, my father's parents were always known to me as Oma and Opa, almost never used their names Beatrix and Johannes... their siblings, i don't remember the word for uncle but for great aunty, "Tanta" or something like this

i remember at the age of 4 years old when we would visit them (for a time we lived in an adjacent property) there would always be kisses for both Oma and Opa at greeting, one on each cheek 
 Yeah, German would be Tante. 
 And Onkel. 
 ah yes... i think the thing was my opa's brother lived in the netherlands 
 ah yes, the dutch say "oom" like "oom piet" uncle peter, the oo being pronounced like the o in home 
 oh i love me the sound of a big tall dutch woman speaking a thick northern accent wawwwww *gurgle* 
 seriously, idk if you have ever heard the way a group of dutch women sound when they talk to each other it's like a gathering of songbirds 
 😊