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 Amethyst fork with Monero support, I don't know if I like or not the burrow that just opened up, what's next? 🤔 
 Everything nice! 
 I hear you, but if Nostr is only for Bitcoiners, it's probably dead in the water. My philosophy on influence is to meet people where they are.

Personally, I accept all forms of currency and assets :) I even mine shitcoins that don't require ASIC machines and tons of electricity

...then I convert it all over to BTC and Monero, one for stacking, one for using. I don't see the logic in turning down money. 
 Nostr is for everyone, all the time.
Period. 🫂🎨 
 I agree. It goes along with being a truly open protocol. 
 I am amazed that a fork has not yet been made to use the Nano XNO shitcoin as a zap. 
 I'm not usually against innovations, but mentally I had nostr on (my) good side of the story. It is true that there is a whole world out there and if they want to use nostr to exchange tokens, shells or pay with pictures of kittens I am not going to be the one to stop them. Anyway, I have the utmost respect for Monero and its community, of course. 
 Nostr is going to introduce the kittencoin people to Lightning.

You don't evangelize by only preaching to the converted. 
 the majority of cryptocurrency users DO NOT KNOW ABOUT LIGHTNING

really, they don't get it, some pretend they know but have never used it

and the moneros don't seem to understand that none of the hops in a payment route are blinded from the rest, it's at least as private as both parties in a bitcoin transaction using tor on both ends, the sending and the receiving 
 I know they don't know. I hear them on podcasts complaining on and on about how Bitcoin is useless as a currency. 
 what coins? if have left some Radeon 580 from early Eth mining... 
 Depends on your hardware's hashrate, the cost of electricity, the current value of the coin etc. 

Here's a good resource with calculators for you to point you in the right direction:

https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/crypto-assets-you-can-mine-from-a-home-computer

A notable section from the link:

"The hashrate and revenue calculation
The website WhatToMine offers a comprehensive calculator that allows you to evaluate the profitability of mining various cryptocurrencies compared to Ethereum or Bitcoin. It factors in your hardware’s hashrate to give you an estimate of potential earnings. Other factors influencing profitability are:

- The market price of the coin you are mining. Cryptocurrency prices are highly volatile – so mining a crypto that is trending up will make you more money than one that is flat or trending down.

- The cost of electricity. A basic rule of thumb for a GPU is the higher the hashrate it can produce, the more electricity it will use. The price of electricity worldwide is measured in kilowatt-hours.
USA Electricity prices

Electricity prices vary widely in the US. Source – EnergyBot"

 
 I also don't understand how so-called defenders of innovation and freedom tech are so hostile and conservative when it comes to nostr and bitcoin. It's totally contradictory. 
 Nostr is for everyone
Bitcoin is for everyone
Monero is for everyone

If that's not the case and it doesn't work, natural selection will do its job

"the proof-of-work speaks for itself."

"I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume." S.N.
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 I just sent value across nostr from my own wallet using my own node.

fully self sovereign zapping set up in minutes.

nothing to see here no doubt. 
 Bud, lots of us been doing that for a long time. 
 right.

iow, while technically possible, running a sovereign LN node is still a massive headache and potentially expensive in a high gee environment.

lets be honest with the people shall we? 
 I’m always honest with people. Running a node is getting easier and it’s possible to self custody even if you don’t run the infrastructure yourself. I have a full node with Lightning that I built in less than one day and a hosted Alby Hub node that I use only for Nostr that doesn’t me cost anything to run. 
 thanks for the clarification.

How is it your Alby node doesn't cost you anything to run?
You can administer it yourself? 
 It’s a cloud hosted LND instance where the user holds the private key and you can open channels with LSPs or other peers, and it connects to all of Alby’s NWC services and any Nostr clients that support it. It’s seamless. 
 On our cloud it's LDK actually! 
But can use various instances, indeed. 
 You can't stop people from using open source code.


Not sure why anyone ever thinks otherwise. 

Do I like monero. Nope.

Doesn't it matter. Also No. 


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 Excited for the nine people that will use it. 
 lol exactly 
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