Muun isn't a good LN wallet. Here are much better options: nostr:nevent1qqs9gqumceu5kwss6z5vstm94h39q9sj2x9jx2hdcvj8fueq7uuhyfgpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzquhj9h4s3ktk0sjs4243j70tk3h2agyvsmv6cnzeu3m0dp29l2q6qvzqqqqqqy3pwkgm 

 I use it to move lightning to on-chain and to orange pill. l've tried mutiny several times and always had issues with pulling any funds out. Never had an issue with Muun, and its a good beginner intro wallet. Channel management and locked up funds are not my jam. Id rather not even have a zap address if thats what it comes to.  

 The issue here is, Muun isn't using LN at all. It uses submarine swaps to facilitate LN invoices. 

What this means? When the on-chain fees are up, Muun's fees going up too.  

 Thank you for explaining that. I didn't realize.  

 Yeah when fees are high Muun is BRUTAL on fees. Meanwhile using a real lightning wallet you will continue to pay low tx fees even during a high on chain fee environment 

 I still use Muun primarily as a means of converting on-chain to lightning for various purposes. 

 Not just the users are paying higher fees, they also contribute to full blocks in the first place.


Great thread by @mononaut
 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1621663167582437376.html 

 The issue here is, Muun isn't using LN at all. It uses submarine swaps to facilitate LN invoices. 

What this means? When the on-chain fees are up, Muun's fees going up too.  

 Thank you for explaining that. I didn't realize.  

 Yeah when fees are high Muun is BRUTAL on fees. Meanwhile using a real lightning wallet you will continue to pay low tx fees even during a high on chain fee environment 

 I still use Muun primarily as a means of converting on-chain to lightning for various purposes. 

 Not just the users are paying higher fees, they also contribute to full blocks in the first place.


Great thread by @mononaut
 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1621663167582437376.html