Oddbean new post about login | logout Oh no. 😜 Surely some people are BlueSky folks and other folks are Nostr folks.
No. Nostr is for everybody, we want everybody and we need everybody. It doesn't work if Nostr is just full of people who agree with each other all the time.
I disagree. 🧌
I agree with your disagreement. It’s not that we agree to disagree. It’s just that we agree on disagreement that only agreement can be found on Nostr.
Then everyone must agree to use nostr. We must create yestr as well if we want to capture everyone. It needs to be super centralized and censorious, just make ypubs easy to convert to npubs so people can migrate easily.
Lmao
Yestr day... All my troubles seemed so far away
This was probably the best note I read today. nostr:nprofile1qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tcpzdmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82c30qyvhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnndehhyapwwdhkx6tpdshszxnhwden5te0wpuhyctdd9jzuenfv96x5ctx9e3k7mf0qydhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgunsd3jkyuewvdhk6tcpzemhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2un9d3shjtnrdakj7qgewaehxw309aex2mrp0yhx6mmddaehgu3wwp5ku6e0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcqyqlhwrt96wnkf2w9edgr4cfruchvwkv26q6asdhz4qg08pm6w3djgz49hfj give this guy a membership.
I need to make this membership a badge and start assigning them 🥹
nostr is a movement of the people by the people for the people
my brazilian friend and i exiled in Estonia 🇪🇪 (a couple of years ago) https://m.primal.net/KYsg.jpg https://m.primal.net/KYsi.jpg https://m.primal.net/KYsj.jpg https://m.primal.net/KYsk.jpg
Including the NSA/FBI and CSEC/CSIS?
Your wrong! 😉
I agree. Same for Bitcoin. It is for everybody. It’s for you and me and BlackRock and the US and Chinese governments and whoever else wants to embrace it. When we have everyone on a money standard that cannot be debased value will tend to be naturally distributed to everyone according to their contributions. Fiat aristocracy might even get a head start, but they can’t enslave people forever on a hard-money standard.
Proof of work money in turn demands value to be earned. Aristocrats may have a head start, but if they fail to add value they will lose the lead. This will be the biggest step our societies have taken toward true meritocracy.
exactly, nostr and btc are for everyone.
No, they are for anyone not everyone
Better!
Agreed 100%. I'm against personal offense, calumny, detraction, fake news and so on. Apart from this, the bigger ideological friction, dissension and discordance here, the bigger will be Nostr.
Agreed 100%. I'm against personal offense, calumny, detraction, fake news and so on. Apart from this, the bigger ideological friction, dissension and discordance here, the bigger will be Nostr. nostr:note1wcy2lxvlqcv32fh3pvse6mpzy0s8nx7eur7e87vhu0hmtg6jxdxq5uhvuy
I agree! Wait...
I just love this sentiment....this is exactly why I'm here...we need each other...some people are here to entertain...some of us are here to see how free it really is.....
Ya, we really need the people who will force us to agree with them , can't wait for that🙄
I suppose one advantage of Nostr is that those people can't literally force you to agree with them. They can't actually get your banned for instance. So although they can behave in an extremely toxic and aggressive way, they can't actually do anything to you. And so maybe the argument is that the presence of more people strenghtens the network.
A social network is also about distribution. If you are banned from a few popular Relay nodes, you are effectively banned from the network. Your audience will not find your notes without putting some effort themselves.
yes but isn't that the beauty of the relay nodes? If you just have one more node in your list, then you're fine. And I know you're saying that people won't add those relays, but I wonder if just the fact that they have the option to add more relays will keep everyone more honest. It's like Bitcoin, just the fact that it exists makes it harder to central bankers to print infinitely, because their actions will show up in the price of something. So if a relay bans someone for purely political reasons, it will just harm that relay and drive people to another. Of course people could simply choose to only add the most popular relays, or be tricked into thinking the more niche relays are 'dangerous', but I'm not sure any protocol can solve that. All we can do surely is just give people the choice, make it easy for non technical users to make that choice, and just hope that people aren't stupid. If they are stupid, then that's just a human problem.
Liked this note to prove a point
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Mateus 5 ⁴⁴b [...] para que sejais filhos do vosso Pai que está nos céus, ⁴⁵ porque faz que o seu sol se levante sobre maus e bons, e a chuva desça sobre justos e injustos. nostr:note1wcy2lxvlqcv32fh3pvse6mpzy0s8nx7eur7e87vhu0hmtg6jxdxq5uhvuy
I agree Nostr needs to be for everybody. But if we want Bluesky users to come, we must cater to their needs and offer something they value. The people who are here are here because Nostr gives them freedom. Why are people there? Some people don't want freedom (at least for now), they want a "safe" & curated experience (could be wrong, but this is what I assume they want). How is Nostr better than Bluesky at that? Are we trying to be better at that? How would we even compete with that? This is the only way to win them over.
Obviously it goes without saying that those that don't want such a curated experience shouldn't be forced to have it, but that the option should exist for those who want it. Afaik it doesn't today.
It's awesome to be different and have varied interests and perspectives for the greater good of all Nostriches! #GrowNostr #PlebChain #BTC
So true, Nostr is also for your greatest enemy
Ainda não chegamos lá, mas é isso mesmo. Perfeito: «De todo modo, o objetivo aqui é acolher todas as “tribos” e nessa diversidade agente cresce.» nostr:nevent1qqs8vz90nx0svxg4ymcskgvads3z8cren0v7plvnlxt78ma45dfrxnqpzfmhxue69uhkummnw3eryvfwvdhk6tczyqalp33lewf5vdq847t6te0wvnags0gs0mu72kz8938tn24wlfze6qcyqqqqqqgl5g5ga
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