That line is a psychological line.  http is a decentralized protocol, tho some will argue that it is not.  But if it is the parent protocol of nostr, so anything nostr can do, http can do, and more.  So if you think nostr is decentralized then http must be decentralized.

It might be useful to use the term "sufficiently decentralized".  The term has become a slogan and a cliche in modern s/w engineering, in any case.

You could look at it another way.  If the main bluesky node went down it could be critical.  If damus went down it would be a pretty bad situation in nostr.  If one particular website goes down it doesnt matter too much.  If any bitcoin node or miner goes down, it will barely be noticed.  If one pubky or bittorrent node goes down, the system is resilient. 

 Why would it be bad?  Half the time I don't even use the damus relay. I deleted it for months. Didn't affect me at all.

It seems simple:  can I instantly respond to a post unlike by sending with Bitcoin? If so, let's continue discussing. If not, then there's is no reason to discuss. 

 Will literally nuked the Damus relay and it had almost no noticeable effect (at least for me, or from what I’ve read of others’ experiences).  And Damus is my main client, but I also use 1-2 others on occasion,

I don’t know much about BlueSky but it sounds like there is basically a single data server. 

 @matt @melvincarvalho,

Since you seem to be defending the current or potential decentralization of BlueSky… how does it handle the current central data relay going down?  Or, how do they plan to go from one to many data relays? 

 Sorry, the second question was meant to be more…

How do they play to add more redundancy in the data servers, and in that future state how would they handle it if the ‘top’ server went down? 

 I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Bluesky’s decentralization is here or substantial. It might be in the future, but it certainly isn’t now. The point is more that we should learn from their feature set, because they have some features that are very decentralizing of power within a social network, even though they run on centralized rails. 

 Cool, I can totally get behind that.

When you say “we should learn from BlueSky”, do you mean ppl focused on Nostr?

If no, then I’m lost on your point.

If yes, what specifically do you think BlueSky is doing right *as a protocol* that Nostr is doing wrong or worse?  And specifically curious in the BlueSky “decentralized features” you mentioned.

Thanks 

 The ability for anyone to create a feed algorithm and share it directly as a post is the most obvious huge one. Decentralized opt-in moderation/spam filtering/tagging/NSFW-marking is the other. 

 They've actually got more open over time, which has amazed me.  More of it, I say!  Nostr has become more centralized.  You just never know how projects will develop, but all can strive to be better!